Suggestion: Close the web forums
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I guess this is unlikely to be a popular suggestion, but as the person that set the forums up I think I should comment.
I think the webforums should be closed down, in terms of propoganda value for the party I would say there value is not positive but negative. There's too many people using it for wringing out there favourite hobby-horse, whatever that may be, and not enough members of the public making enquiries as to what socialism is and such like, which is what the forum is supposed to be for.
Or an alternative would be to rapidly delte users and comments that use the forum merely as a means for persuing their personal greivences or otherwise derail discussions from there main purpose.
In short, the forum in it's present state is an embarasment. I'm glad I'm no longer associated with it or have to get involved with administering it.
DJP wrote:In short, the forum in it's present state is an embarasment. I'm glad I'm no longer associated with it or have to get involved with administering it.I couldn't agree more. It does not faintly resemble what I envisage to be a socialist forum. It is over run with Trolls and people discussing rubbish. It should be under the democratic control of the Party members who use it. I made this suggestion some years ago.
DJP wrote:Sorry Vin, you are *the worst* offender.You have started to disrupt your own thread? Now may I suggest you simply take off your prejudice glasses and take my comments at face value??What do you think of the suggestion that members of the party who use the forum should have democratic control over the forum? Is it practical? It is certainly a challenge.Another point you raise: Mod already has the authority to rapidly delete users and posts but he doesn't; even though many members ask him to.
I am open to the suggestion to close the forums. The time and effort members spend moderating it could be better spent elsewhere.
DJP wrote:Sorry Vin, I'm not going to get drawn into a discussion about it but you are *the worst* offender.I don't want to be drawn into it, you raised it.
It is just a simple matter of accepting mod decisions as final (like a referees) and not posting or responding to perceived flames.When perceived to be the subject of an attack use the 'report' function and remain silent while it is dealt with.That is not always going to be to the individual's personal satisfaction and they should just accept this.As for content, I personally enjoy some of the longer contributions and exchanges.If it is too philosophical or heavy for me, I can read another thread.if they are not topical enough, or everyday political posts of immediate relevance to the working class, there is nothing stopping me from opening a new thread.The only thing which makes me balk at looking at the forum are the various acrimonious exchanges.Even if perceived to be the victim, responding to a flame, other than using the report button,, should in my own view be sufficient for an immediate short suspension.
DJP wrote:I guess this is unlikely to be a popular suggestion, but as the person that set the forums up I think I should comment.I think the webforums should be closed down, in terms of propoganda value for the party I would say there value is not positive but negative. There's too many people using it for wringing out there favourite hobby-horse, whatever that may be, and not enough members of the public making enquiries as to what socialism is and such like, which is what the forum is supposed to be for.Or an alternative would be to rapidly delte users and comments that use the forum merely as a means for persuing their personal greivences or otherwise derail discussions from there main purpose.Or a further alternative would be for party members to post questions relevant to the party case. For instance: How relevant is the Marxist theory in the twenty first century? [/quote]
Brian wrote:Or a further alternative would be for party members to post questions relevant to the party case. For instance: How relevant is the Marxist theory in the twenty first century?A very good idea and worth a try. As many members as possible could also 'share' and 'tweet' the thread to attract interest.
admin wrote:Even if perceived to be the victim, responding to a flame, other than using the report button,, should in my own view be sufficient for an immediate short suspension.I agree that the Moderator should deal with 'flame', it would end a lot of the acrimonious exchanges- but treating the victim more severely than the attacker? Doesn't seem right to me.
Quote:I agree that the Moderator should deal with 'flame', it would end a lot of the acrimonious exchanges- but treating the victim more severely than the attacker? Doesn't seem right to me.It is not a war zone. they are not being treated 'more' severely. The referee analogy applies. If the 'victim' draws it to the mod (refs) attention the mod deals with it. It the 'victim' responds in kind, he or she is, using the referee analogy, booked for retaliation, a different offence to the original. incurring a short suspension, each time it happens.We must exercise self discipline in this forum.
Brian wrote:How relevant is the Marxist theory in the twenty first century?Yes that is the sort of thing I mean also. But it can spiral into lengthier contributions and we shouldn't necessarily object to those. Sifting through lengthier deliberative contributions have provided me with some good material which i have abstracted in punchier replies elsewhere. (In my own view)
.What is the purpose of having the WSM forum ? The few participants that we have in this forum can be become members of that particular forum. The moderator job would be easier and the trollls can be controlled.
What is the purpose of having the WSM forum ? The few participants that we have in this forum can be become members of that particular forum. The moderator job would be easier and the trollls can be controlled.
admin wrote:Brian wrote:How relevant is the Marxist theory in the twenty first century?Yes that is the sort of thing I mean also. But it can spiral into lengthier contributions and we shouldn't necessarily object to those. Sifting through lengthier deliberative contributions have provided me with some good material which i have abstracted in punchier replies elsewhere. (In my own view)
.We can use Quora instead. We can answer our own questions
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