SPGB in The Sun Newspaper
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September 30, 2017 at 4:18 pm #85757AnonymousInactive
This report in the Sun has probably set us back another 100 years. Or perhaps not? What do you think. Is this the Party's position? It's not mine? It's crazy. Peraps a letter to the Editor
September 30, 2017 at 4:59 pm #129542imposs1904ParticipantWhat's your problem with it? The words quoted, I mean. I think the corbyn as maggie photo is cheesy.
September 30, 2017 at 5:04 pm #129543imposs1904ParticipantThe SPGB twitter account words quoted in bold and italics:They said: "Outdated failing capitalism must be eradicated and replaced with socialism. "Forget about wanting to manage capitalism to make it nicer." The tweet was accompanied by a snap of Jeremy's face on former Tory PM Margaret Thatcher. The party argues that Mr Corbyn's definition of socialism isn't good enough, and they want a "class-free, state-free, money-free society with free access". The party also tweeted out an article written today which argued that "Jeremy Corbyn is a real threat to the working class, but they still haven't realised" and labelled the party "delusional" Not necessarily my choice of words, but there's nothing quoted that I could disagree with.
September 30, 2017 at 6:13 pm #129544AnonymousInactiveI agree the quote is fine. The problem I have is claiming that Corbyn is the same as Thatcher when he clearly is not. Thatcher openly opposed Trade Unions and set about murdering its members by starvation and violence. Corbyn openly supports trade unions and seeks to use the law to encourage trade union activity and growth.
September 30, 2017 at 6:19 pm #129545jondwhiteParticipantDid the tweet really say Corbyn was right wing? What did the tweet say?
September 30, 2017 at 6:33 pm #129552DJPParticipantLooks like a nice piece of free advertsing if you ask me.Saint Jeremy jokes are funny especially because they get leftists backs up.
September 30, 2017 at 6:37 pm #129551AnonymousInactivejondwhite wrote:Did the tweet really say Corbyn was right wing? What did the tweet say?The Sun has made that bit up but the meme gives an inaccurate message IMHO Jeremy CorbynVerified account @jeremycorbyn Sep 28MoreHappy 80th birthday to Alice Mahon. A friend and former Labour MP who has dedicated her life to campaigning for a more peaceful & just world27 replies200 retweets860 likesReply 27 Retweet 200 Like 860 Direct messageThe Socialist PartyVerified account @OfficialSPGBFollowingMoreReplying to @jeremycorbynOutdated failing capitalism must be eradicated and replaced with socialism. Forget about wanting to manage capitalism to make it nicer.5:40 AM – 28 Sep 2017
September 30, 2017 at 6:50 pm #129553robbo203ParticipantThe Sun also said "In a tweet to the Labour leader, the official Socialist Party account said to him that socialism must replace capitalism in Britain". Which makes it sound like the SPGB suppports the idea of "socialism in one country". I think the Sun needs to be corrected.
September 30, 2017 at 7:08 pm #129554DJPParticipantrobbo203 wrote:I think the Sun needs to be corrected.Yes I'm sure they don't want to tarnish their reputation for accurate reporting.
September 30, 2017 at 7:13 pm #129555robbo203ParticipantDJP wrote:robbo203 wrote:I think the Sun needs to be corrected.Yes I'm sure they don't want to tarnish their reputation for accurate reporting.
LOL DJP but, yes, I suppose you could approach them (with tonque firmly in cheek) out of concern that their reputation might be tarnished. Flattery will get you everywhere
September 30, 2017 at 7:37 pm #129556robbo203ParticipantVin wrote:I agree the quote is fine. The problem I have is claiming that Corbyn is the same as Thatcher when he clearly is not. Thatcher openly opposed Trade Unions and set about murdering its members by starvation and violence. Corbyn openly supports trade unions and seeks to use the law to encourage trade union activity and growth.Thats true enough Vin – you cant really compare Corbyn to Thatcher as far as their personal beliefs are concerned – but, on the other hand, it does occur to me that this might be to overtheorise the issue. The image of Jeremy Thatcher works at the level of a meme. Like the worm eating away at the apple's core it is has the effect of jolting the viewer/reader into rethinking what might be the overall impact of a Corbyn government. Whatever Corbyn might think, you can't operate this rotten system of capitalism in the interests of the "many not the few" and Corbyn like Thatcher, even if reluctantly (unlike Thatcher) will be obliged to operate the system in the interests of the few against the many If that simple message gets through, the image might have some value after all and help to counter the rather disturbing cultish following Corbyn seems to be collecting around his person (probably through no fault of his own) which is defintely not a healthy development and is decidedly anti-socialist
September 30, 2017 at 8:08 pm #129557Bijou DrainsParticipantMy opinion, for what it's worth, is that this shows the value of social media in getting a message across. I think it's to be expected that The Scum will get it wrong, (I don't even think it is a deliberate distortion, just shit thick journalists).It might mean that a few of the readership might be curious enough to find out about what we are really saying. Another good point is the reference all the way through to us as the Socialsit Party, they might get a few complaints from the SPEWERS,I am also happy with this bit in the article as well "The party argues that Mr Corbyn's definition of socialism isn't good enough, and they want a "class-free, state-free, money-free society with free access". Too bloody right, pity they didn't mention that it has been our principled standpoint for 113 years!I do think that photoshopping Jezza into Thatcher was a bit childish though.
October 1, 2017 at 8:51 am #129546AnonymousInactiveDuplicate
October 1, 2017 at 8:52 am #129547AnonymousInactiveDJP wrote:robbo203 wrote:I think the Sun needs to be corrected.Yes I'm sure they don't want to tarnish their reputation for accurate reporting.
October 1, 2017 at 1:02 pm #129548PJShannonKeymasterMax is good at socialist agit-pro and satirical stuff. He used to have website dedicated to it.
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