Soldiers need special protection?
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September 23, 2013 at 11:51 am #82374alanjjohnstoneKeymaster
Labour believes laws should enforce the dignity of the uniform.
September 23, 2013 at 4:18 pm #96846SocialistPunkParticipantAn interesting bit from the linked news article."A poll of troops last year found that nearly one in 20 members of the Armed Forces said they had experienced violence or threats of violence."I am not one for tarring whole sections of society with the same brush, but I have experience of off duty soldiers looking for trouble. I even knew a guy years ago who was stabbed while on holiday in Spain by a drunk off duty soldier. I am sure many others have had the delightful experience of drunk off duty soldiers.I think I smell the stench of electioneering from the Labour party.
September 23, 2013 at 6:09 pm #96847jondwhiteParticipantIs the use of the military idea as a political pawn in domestic politics something that has increased in the 21st Century? I have noticed politicians doing this to suit their own ends.
September 23, 2013 at 8:14 pm #96848DJPParticipantSocialistPunk wrote:I am not one for tarring whole sections of society with the same brush, but I have experience of off duty soldiers looking for trouble. I even knew a guy years ago who was stabbed while on holiday in Spain by a drunk off duty soldier. I am sure many others have had the delightful experience of drunk off duty soldiers.Probably nothing like a good dose of PTSD to bring out violence in you…
September 23, 2013 at 9:15 pm #96849ALBKeymasterI hadn't realised that this was a Labour Party proposal. What a shower of shameless opportunists. I suppose some fock-us group has told them that militarism is a vote-winner at the moment and they duly oblige. Who said they are the lesser evil? They are just as bad if not worse than the other lot. At least the other lot probably genuinely believe in militarism while Labour is just pretending to try to garner votes.
September 24, 2013 at 1:03 am #96850alanjjohnstoneKeymasterThe families of 185 men, women and children killed by British forces actions, have been paid “barely £3,000 each.” However, where there are those “accidentally injured by British forces” — which can and does include the “accidental” loss of both legs, or arms, the average payment is: “at an average of £1,750 a time.” The Ministry of Defence told the Independent that all claims were regarded as having: “no lower priority than UK Armed Forces personnel.” For injured UK service personnel, pressure groups point out that the average payment was £73,000. So much for Afghan lives having “no lower priority …” http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/09/now-official-for-the-british-ministry-of-defence-afghan-lives-are-cheap/
September 24, 2013 at 7:33 pm #96851BrianParticipantDJP wrote:SocialistPunk wrote:I am not one for tarring whole sections of society with the same brush, but I have experience of off duty soldiers looking for trouble. I even knew a guy years ago who was stabbed while on holiday in Spain by a drunk off duty soldier. I am sure many others have had the delightful experience of drunk off duty soldiers.Probably nothing like a good dose of PTSD to bring out violence in you…
And don't I know it!
September 25, 2013 at 11:33 pm #96852alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI spotted this bit of info. John Mann, a Labour member of the Treasury Select Committee, wrote to Mr Cameron demanding that the Conservatives give Mr Spencer’s money to forces’ charities. All Libor fines levied by British authorities on banks including Barclays, RBS and Lloyds have been given to the Armed Forces Covenant Fund. “Michael Spencer’s donations to the Conservative Party got him access to the Prime Minister at Chequers,” he said. “Now his firm Icap has been fined for fixing the Libor rates. I have called on [the Prime Minister] to confirm that he will ensure that [these] donations go to armed forces charities.”http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/lets-discuss-kickbacks-over-lunch-tory-donors-firm-fined-55m-over-libor-fixing-8839198.html Now who deems a military charity more deserving for bankers money than say a childs or old persons charity, why not the homeless, after all they were the ones suffering directly from bank interest rates.
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