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  • #119016
    Anonymous
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    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    I still can't remember the name of D'Arcy's miserable mate. He had a face like a well smacked arse when the heathens of NE branch turned up, with our "strong regional accents".

    Harry Baldwin?

    #119017
    imposs1904
    Participant

    Sad to read about some of the older ex-comrades attitudes towards homosexuality because I just posted an excellent article from the January 1978 Socialist Standard on the net that exhibits an excellent understanding of the issue at hand:http://socialiststandardmyspace.blogspot.com/2016/09/politics-and-homosexual-liberation-1978.htmlAnybody know what happened to Paul Moody, the author of the article? He wrote a number of good articles for the Standard in the late 1970s.

    #119018
    Bijou Drains
    Participant
    gnome wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    I still can't remember the name of D'Arcy's miserable mate. He had a face like a well smacked arse when the heathens of NE branch turned up, with our "strong regional accents".

    Harry Baldwin?

    No not him, just came back. Cyril Bloody May!!!!!!!

    #119019
    Bijou Drains
    Participant
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    gnome wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    I still can't remember the name of D'Arcy's miserable mate. He had a face like a well smacked arse when the heathens of NE branch turned up, with our "strong regional accents".

    Harry Baldwin?

    No not him, just came back. Cyril Bloody May!!!!!!!

    He had the look of an Easter Island statue, that had been "digitally penetrated" and really wasn't enjoying it.

    #119020
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    gnome wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    I still can't remember the name of D'Arcy's miserable mate. He had a face like a well smacked arse when the heathens of NE branch turned up, with our "strong regional accents".

    Harry Baldwin?

    No not him, just came back. Cyril Bloody May!!!!!!!

    Cyril May was the member who Harry Young once described as a "dilettante playboy".   OK, tautological and misuse of a noun but you get the picture…

    #119021
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’m surprised the SPGB hasn’t savaged you over your – no doubt democratically arrived at – decision to play the stock market. I don’t know if investing in eco-entrepreneurs and green capitalists amounts to ‘representing’ the capitalist class, but it might be argued that the scheme scuppers your clause 7.
    Would a minority of the membership who were unhappy with this development and who behaved in a ‘non-democratic’ manner, be written off as non-socialist renegades?

    #119022
    ALB
    Keymaster
    Twford John wrote:
    I'm surprised the SPGB hasn't savaged you

    But we are the SPGB so how can we savage ourselves?I knew he was a troll from the start.

    #119023
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    A minority opinion was that we buy gold bars but another minority opinion suggested that we instead buy platinum,Another minority said we go down to the casino to the roulette table and place the lot on red – but i got out-voted. 

    #119024
    lindanesocialist
    Participant
    gnome wrote:
    No not him, just came back. Cyril Bloody May!!!!!!!

    Vin said He came and spoke in the NE I remember. Wasn't as friendly as Cdes Slapper and Coleman. Harry Young came up, too. He was invited to (the now) Sunderland University to  talk on his experience of  1917. (Orgaised by my good self)When we approached the door of the meeting Harry was allowed in  handed a glass of sherry and the door was slammed in our faces. I waited briefly for my comrade to come out and protest but the little shit didn't.You can guess how North east members voted on their expulsion..It was reported to members later that he had commented, 'Workers in the North East are only bothered about their beer and bingo" To which Steve Coleman replied  " So what! Better than sitting reading Shakespear."They were an arrogant bunch

    #119025
    moderator1
    Participant
    lindanesocialist wrote:
    gnome wrote:
    No not him, just came back. Cyril Bloody May!!!!!!!

    Vin said He came and spoke in the NE I remember. Wasn't as friendly as Cdes Slapper and Coleman. Harry Young came up, too. He was invited to (the now) Sunderland University to  talk on his experience of  1917. (Orgaised by my good self)When we approached the door of the meeting Harry was allowed in  handed a glass of sherry and the door was slammed in our faces. I waited briefly for my comrade to come out and protest but the little shit didn't.You can guess how North east members voted on their expulsion..It was reported to members later that he had commented, 'Workers in the North East are only bothered about their beer and bingo" To which Steve Coleman replied  " So what! Better than sitting reading Shakespear."They were an arrogant bunch

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    #119026
    lindanesocialist
    Participant

    I deeply regret allowing Vin to reminisce with other comrades, regarding The Socialist Studies Group.  Although I was there myself, Vin has  a better memory of the occassion as he was very active at the time of the expulsions.I will not allow Vin to express his opinion via this account again. 

    #119027
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I see why you would feel uncomfortable about Socialist Party Investments and wish to pass it off as a joke. It wasn’t my purpose to embarrass you. What I am trying to get at, and I should have used a less sensitive example, is: do you believe that democracy is, as it were, a trump card. That if a majority of the membership supports a proposal, no matter how preposterous ( and a revolutionary party making capital investments does appear pretty preposterous ),then the democratic decision overrides everything else?

    #119028
    ALB
    Keymaster
    Twford John wrote:
    decision to play the stock market
    Twford John wrote:
    making capital investments

    Assuming for the moment that you are sincere, on what basis do you make your claim that we have decided to do these things?

    #119029
    LBird
    Participant
    Twford John wrote:
    …do you believe that democracy is, as it were, a trump card. That if a majority of the membership supports a proposal, no matter how preposterous …then the democratic decision overrides everything else?

    I'm not a member of the SPGB, TJ, but the simple answer to your question, for any democratic socialist, is 'Yes'.The alternative is to accept that an elite have the power of determining 'preposterousness'.That you hold this elitist belief seems to be implied by your question.

    #119030
    Bijou Drains
    Participant
    Twford John wrote:
    I see why you would feel uncomfortable about Socialist Party Investments and wish to pass it off as a joke. It wasn't my purpose to embarrass you. What I am trying to get at, and I should have used a less sensitive example, is: do you believe that democracy is, as it were, a trump card. That if a majority of the membership supports a proposal, no matter how preposterous ( and a revolutionary party making capital investments does appear pretty preposterous ),then the democratic decision overrides everything else?

     I see no reason why a Socialist Party should feel uncomfortable about making capital investments.We bought our head office many years ago and and the value of the property has risen consideably. Are you suggesting that we should have not made that capital investment and paid rent, or do you think that we if and when the property is sold we should only sell it at a price that reflects the price we paid adjusted for inflation?Similarly we have retired members who no doubt have pensions partly paid by investments in stocks and shares, should they disinvest, or should we not accept any monies donated by them.If we have capital and we can use it to increase the money we have to plough into revolutionary activity, why should we not? We are not a bunch of moralistic zealots who are attempting to live a socialistic life within the capitailist system, wearing hair shirts and beating our backs with wet copies of Das Kapital. We are realists who realise, that unfortunately we have to live in a capitalist world. If we can subvert some of it to increase revolutionary activity, all well and good!

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