Socialist Party and Sanders?

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    alanjjohnstone
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/12163433/Bernie-Sanders-had-no-intention-of-becoming-a-Democrat.html

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    Mr Sanders appears to have subscribed for a time to Socialist Republic, a cheaply produced magazine linked with the hard left Socialist Party of Great Britain.

    Has this been addressed by our media committee and correction requested? 

    #117501
    Anonymous
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    alanjjohnstone wrote:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/12163433/Bernie-Sanders-had-no-intention-of-becoming-a-Democrat.html

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    Mr Sanders appears to have subscribed for a time to Socialist Republic, a cheaply produced magazine linked with the hard left Socialist Party of Great Britain.

    Has this been addressed by our media committee and correction requested? 

    This quote has now been forwarded to the Media committee for their urgent attention.

    #117502
    jondwhite
    Participant

    Are the Media Committee aware of this passage from The Monument?'The Socialist Standard first came out in September 1904. Its   name was chosen by the Executive Committee from a list of suggestions which included The Red Flag, Socialism, The Socialist Republic and The Socialist News. '

    #117503
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I had a vague recollection of a breakaway from the De Leonist SLP of America publishing a magazine called "Socialist Republic" and thought I had a copy but couldn't find one. So I checked on the internet, which came up with this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_for_Socialist_ReconstructionIf this is what Bernie subscribed to, then the Torygraph is not all that wide of the mark because they'd be referring to another group ultimately derived from the same "Impossibilist" stable as us (though of course not having any connection with us).If that's what he subscribed to he could have done worse, e.g subscribed to some Trot rag.More on New Union Party here. Not bad except that they are dyed-in-the-wool Deleonists ("Socialist Industrial Unionists").

    #117504
    imposs1904
    Participant

    I'm bemused by the Socialist Republic reference as well, and I initially thought of a De Leonist group as well. (Was it Sam Brandon's lot, the Industrial Union Party?) With regards to a Socialist Republic paper/magazine in Britain or the UK, I'm really at a loss to remember one. Wasn't there an Irish paper called Worker's Republic? That's the only one I can of.edit: Quick edit reveals the Irish paper:Link: Workers RepublicThe journalist obviously made a mistake with regards the name of the newspaper/magazine, and it'll probably be Socialist Review, or something of that ilk.

    #117505
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There was a paper called 'Socialist Republican' which was produced for a while in the 1980s by the Irish Peoples Liberation Organisation and the Revolutionary Marxist Group, which was a Trotskyist outfit, produced a bulletin and also a theoretical journal entitled 'Marxist Review'.

    #117506
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I still think, from the journalist's wording itself, that it's a reference to a US paper, which he says linked to us in Britain. According to this, there was a Deleonist publication of that name, published by the Industrial Union Party:http://www.deleonism.org/text/pf000002.htmActually, their platform there is no too bad. I'm not quite sure of its relationship to the New Union Party (I think they merged or something) but here's something from the January 2001 issue of the NUP's then paper the New Unionist which might explain why someone might confuse them with us:

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    The solution to money problems therefore has nothing to do with changing the way money works — and must work—in a capitalist system, but doing away with die need for money, which means doing away with capitalism.In an economic system owned by all the people we'd produce goods and services for our own use. Since we, as a community, would own the product of our labor there'd be no need to buy what already belonged to us. Goods and services would be distributed directly to individuals on the basis of need and the individual's contribution to the labor of society.Without exchange there would be no money, only a rational organization of production and distribution made possible by the abundance created by modern technology.

    What Bernie (mis)understands by socialism is of course far removed from this. 

    #117507
    imposs1904
    Participant

    Looks like someone has to update the IUP's wiki page. There's no mention of the Socialist Republic on there.Link: Industrial Union Party

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