Russian Tensions
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March 29, 2022 at 5:10 pm #228381AnonymousInactive
I do not even trust the newspapers and journals from the left
March 29, 2022 at 5:28 pm #228382alien1ParticipantRussian Spetsnaz captured the Azov ultra-Nazis who tortured Russian POWs.
There will be no Int Crim Court for Sergei Velichko, 28 and Konstanin Nemichev, 26.There will be War Crimes Trials in Russia.
These are the people groomed by the CIA and NATO.March 29, 2022 at 6:37 pm #228386AnonymousInactiveThe international Court is not going to open any criminal case due to the fact that both sides are war criminals, even more, both sides have a long history of collaboration with Nazis and Neo Nazis, the Stalinists and Trotskyists have spent their whole life talking against Nazism and Fascism when the Soviet Union was a big collaborator of the Nazis regimes, and the allied before the war also collaborated with the Nazis.
Nuremberg was established because Germany was completely defeated and also the Nazis were completely defeated despite that the Soviets continued talking about the struggle against Nazism and until now they are playing the same lyrics and they have also created a new concept known as post fascism. Nationalism is not the same as Nazism or Fascism and both sides are nationalists
March 29, 2022 at 9:59 pm #228390ALBKeymasterRussia’s list of “unfriendly countries” is instructive:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfriendly_Countries_List
It shows that they are all states that depend on US military protection and so can be expected to fall in line with US geopolitical strategy. The rest of the world (most) are neutral.
March 30, 2022 at 6:41 am #228392alien1ParticipantThis info may be inaccurate – further reports indicate that no such capture/operation took place.
March 30, 2022 at 7:52 am #228393ALBKeymasterItems from today’s Times indicating who is interested in keeping the war going:
“A government source expressed concern that France and Germany could call for sanctions to be eased if Putin agreed to take no more territory.”
“Johnson said he wanted to send Ukraine ‘more lethal’ military aid.”
And from the editorial:
“The surest path to an acceptable settlement is for the Ukraine to prevail over Russia militarily.”
Clearly Johnson has earned his place in the history books as a warmonger. How long British oligarchs (other than those who are merchants of death) will go along with sacrificing their profits to continue the war remains to be seen. As yet none has spoken out but the pain has not yet really been felt.
March 30, 2022 at 4:00 pm #228411AnonymousInactiveThe USA wants to finish the job that it started in 1991 which is to dismantle Russia completely and bring them to its own sphere of influence, as it did with the other countries that were part of the Soviet Union, they do not want peace, they want war at all cost, and they want regime change. This war has been the best pretext to impose sanctions on Russia and destroy its economic
March 30, 2022 at 7:27 pm #228414AnonymousInactiveBoth sides are playing their own games about peace agreement and accords
March 30, 2022 at 8:41 pm #228416alanjjohnstoneKeymasterOnce again we witness how war is a great accelerator for capitalism.
The anti-Russian economic policies are radical and drastic, involving the urgency that climate change measures have been lacking in.
Billions have now been found for more weaponry but were never available for installation of renewable energy.
In fact, much of the embargo on trade with Russia will undo the switch from fossil fuels.
A few months ago, pre-invasion, I had an exchange with a proponent of Stephen Pinker, that capitalism had reduced wars. How wrong he was. Time always bears our analysis out
March 30, 2022 at 10:01 pm #228417alanjjohnstoneKeymasterAn unnecessary preventable avoidable war
“Much of what Russia says that it has gained was obtainable without an invasion. Ukraine was unlikely to join Nato and the Nato powers said that none of their soldiers would fight in Ukraine. Russian demands for ‘de-Nazification’, and an end to the genocide of Russian speakers, will be easy to meet because neither allegation was true, but Putin could claim to have averted them.”
March 30, 2022 at 10:22 pm #228418AnonymousInactiveI will always say that we were not mistaken at the beginning of the conflict We are not prophets , we analyze according to the objective situations in front of us
March 30, 2022 at 11:15 pm #228420AnonymousInactiveThis war is another pretext to continue pumping petroleum and gas and offshore drilling and non polluters energy sources are going to be placed in a second level it is not a priority anymore, all political promises are going to be wiped out.
Workers have been cheated again, when are we going to stop trusting on politicians and leaders ?
A few days ago , they did not have money for medical services, medication’s, hospitals, education, foods, housing vaccines and infrastructure, but like magic money appeared for armaments and now most European governments, USA, Japan and Australia are arming themselves with modern weapons
The peace makers are becoming war makers
Japan has a non war constitution but they are more armed than during Ww2, it shows that the legal system can not stop wars and our problems can not be resolved with constitutions, they can be violated by the capitalists class
March 31, 2022 at 7:34 am #228427ALBKeymasterBeing the self-appointed chief cheer-leader in Europe for continuing the war in Ukraine seems to have gone to Borys’s head. He imagines himself to be a Great War leader. His latest idea is to send armoured landrovers to Ukraine to break the siege of Mariupol:
Apparently he sees it like the Relief of Mafeking in the Boer War that he would have learned as a schoolboy.
The trouble is that there is no way that the Ukrainian cavalry in landrovers could end the Russian encirclement of Mariupol. If they could they would already have done it.
But it’s another headline for Borys.
March 31, 2022 at 8:43 am #228428ALBKeymasterI know that opinion polls only give quick off-the-cuff answers to set questions and so are not all that reliable but the results of this one suggest that young people in the US, Britain and France are less susceptible to pro-war propaganda than those aged 65 and over:
It also seems that people in the UK are generally more susceptible even than those in the US. In fact only about 2% in the UK would seem to support neither side (very broadly our position) compared to about 15% in France and 10% the US.
March 31, 2022 at 10:24 am #228430alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI think what we are witnessing is the very same old story being re-played once again with a slightly different script plus different actors, who happen to be far more photogenic than your average brown- or black-skinned victims in the media war for ratings.
We must always try to place events in full context and not as isolated a-historical phenomena.
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