Russian Tensions
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But he has now said that that would be the case if Ukraine does, and that NATO would then be considered officially by him as in direct war with Russia. That’s not saying he will hit Ukraine alone with the missiles but NATO countries too.
And with Starmer pushing for it, Biden is likely to allow it, as long as the missiles are British and not American.Al Jazeera:
“..by describing such assaults on Russia as a “joint attack”, Putin has effectively laid the ground for Moscow to argue that it could target Ukraine’s nuclear-armed allies – the US, UK and France – directly, on their soil, if Kyiv attacks Russia in ways that the Kremlin concludes are a “critical threat” to the country’s sovereignty.”Here is how the floated change is analysed by a Russian pro-government outlet:
It seems to be a case of Russia upping in ante to try to deter the other side from taking some action.
Note the bit at the end about a US,British or French satellite being shot down rather than a direct attack on their territory.
Incidentally I can’t see Biden allowing Britain to go it alone, but I can imagine Sir Kyiv Starmer being so reckless and warmongering as to what to do so. After all, just as Reeves has declared Labour is the “party of business” so Starmer has declared that it is “the party of NATO”.
” Washington doesn’t appear ready to take the gloves off entirely and allow Ukraine to target Russia’s airfields with long-range U.S. missiles quite yet — though it may withdraw restrictions on the U.K.’s Storm Shadows, which use U.S. technology.”
the British might be allowed to proceed without U.S. objection,”
(Politico)Biden: even a nuke within Ukraine will spark Armageddon.
Just realised that that dates from October 2022 and anyway he said could rather than will. I don’t know if he is still saying that today in the current situation.
In any event, this is the worst Labour government that there has ever been. And from day one.
Now it seems Russia are arming the Houthi Rebellion amid secret talks with Iran. I know WWIII is unthinkable but things feel like a slow crescendo right now. I still maintain the Capitalist Class would never orchestrate the destruction of their own playground. Surely to God?
Speaking of him upstairs Millions of Evangelicals are rubbing their hands in glee. To hasten the apocalypse so their big pal Jesus comes back. This is the situation we are in.I think if there ever was a nuclear war it would more likely be because of a mistake, like this one which was narrowly averted.
“In any event, this is the worst Labour government that there has ever been. And from day one.”
Not so sure about that, it’s a pretty high bar to get over
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/08/orban-europe-needs-peace-but-eu-leaders-want-war
I still don’t understand why the EU member states as a whole want to continue the war and to keep giving billions to Kiev, when, in 2021, Germany especially was so excited about Nordstream and not so happy about Biden’s interference leading it to be scrapped and pushing Europe back into the Cold War. Now the EU is almost totally gung-ho with NATO.
And we see the leftist parties are the pro-war parties; the rightist ones calling for a ceasefire.
One by of the points in Zelensky’s so-called peace plan is:
“Joint protection by the US and the EU of Ukraine’s critical natural resources and joint use of their economic potential.”
This has led those supporting Russia to investigate what these resources might be:
I don’t think this will be why the West is so keen to incorporate Ukraine into its sphere of influence and, in any event, in resisting this it doesn’t seem to be Russia’s intention to annex the whole of Ukraine.
In any event, an end to the war freezing the current line of contact would leave most of these resources still in Ukraine and so mean the West could still access them. Russia might even accept this as long as Ukraine doesn’t join NATO.
It seems more like Zelensky offering the West something he knows will appeal to them. Senator Graham too is speaking a language capitalists will understand so as convince them to support for US policy there. As a Republican he may even be trying to influence Trump who has been expressing a different view.
I wouldn’t have thought so but they might accept a truncated Ukraine joining the EU (if the EU wanted to take on a basket case).
In fact that might even have been part of a compromise solution before Russia invaded but the US was so insistent on expanding NATO yet further East to try to get the better of Russia, so provoking the Russian invasion (in a failed attempt to instal a pro-Russian government in Kiev).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vkqwe9wwdo
Appears Pyongyang is sending troops after all.
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