Russian Tensions
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Dead the dog, the rabies is gone
Men have to stand on their feet and make the proper decisions, and the proper decision was made.
“Please let TS come back – if only to liven up this forum once again!”
___________________________On the contrary, it would make debate here tediously boring and offputting to most users. You might enjoy trollish at the expense of the SPGB but the rest of us don’t. Its time to draw the line and move on
We spent almost one year dealing with this crazy nationalist which is not even a Leninist, a Maoist, or Stalinists, and he took advantages and abuse based on the democratic principles of this organization, and tried to put down the Socialist Party, in other forum populated by Leninist ( Stalinists, Hoxhaists, Trotskyists, or Maoists ) he would have been expelled immediately without any reasoning and the moderators of those forum are radicals, and they do not take shits from anybody.
This discussion which is about a criminal war between capitalists gangster was taking out of track, and killing of workers, elderly peoples and children was celebrated as a sign of victory, what kind of enjoyment is that ? Only criminals, gangsters and psychopath will celebrate the killing of others human beings.
The Socialist Party had a public discussion of principles with Nazis and Fascists and they comported themselves better than this guy and all the Stalinists that were present at the meeting, as a journalist wrote: Fascism comes in two forms, fascism and anti fascism, and we know by historical experiences all the problems that we went thru because we did not support any war, and we did not support the so called patriotic war of the Soviet Union, and our literature was thrown in the floor and they wanted to confront us violently.
The situation at the forum was already intolerable, and it was about time to pull out the plug and Matt Colbert would have done the same thing immediately. Politic is for matured peoples it is not for children to play around, and all trolls and peoples who support trolls should be blocked too
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/15/pnpm-a15.html The Pentagon leak and the US media on the Ukraine war
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/15/pnpm-a15.html. US troops involved in the war in Ukraine
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/12/tgqh-a12.htmlAmong the dozens of secret documents from the Pentagon and US intelligence agencies now in circulation are reports detailing some of the nefarious operations of British imperialism.
One document in particular gives a glimpse of the provocative role played by London in the war in Ukraine against Russia, detailing a September 29, 2022 incident that could have triggered NATO’s Article 5 requiring member states to come to the aid of any member state under attack.
The Washington Post reported Sunday, “Russia nearly shot down British spy plane near Ukraine, leaked document says.”
I dunno but this strikes me as quite a disturbing development. If Ukraine is allowed to join NATO then does that not represent a greenlight for NATO troops to officially put boots on the ground (as I understand they would be obliged to according to the agreement on mutual defense)? If that happens then NATO and Russian forces would be officially fighting each other. The obvious concern is that this could escalate the prospect of nuclear exchanges. Then everybody is stuffed
I thought, under NATO rules, membership is not allowed if the applying country is in a state of civil war. Does anybody know any more about this?
“NATO membership for Ukraine will be “high on the agenda” at alliance’s summit in July, Stoltenberg says”
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-04-20-23/index.html
I read it as saying that the matter is on the agenda but not that it will be decided that Ukraine will be admitted ie that there will be a discussion about it. Ukraine doesn’t really need to be in NATO at the moment as its conscripted armed forces are already fighting for NATO.
It’s the same with joining the EU. The principle may be decided but it will take ages. Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria have already made it clear that they are not prepared to allow wheat from Ukraine to flood their markets.
Newsweek.com:
” NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has said that Ukraine will eventually become a member of the transatlantic alliance, but he and national leaders including President Joe Biden have made clear that this is a long-term goal.”
Russia keeps saying its goals are basically achieved. This means control of the south and east. If that is so, then partition would be a way out. Would NATO then admit western Ukraine? The problem is, how would they prevent a NATO west Ukraine from continuing to shell the Russian east? (Which likewise would force NATO and Russia into war with each other?
Now that TS is gone, I want to ask again: why is Russia the only power constantly threatening nuclear use?
But it isn’t, as I pointed out before him. Did you look up the links he gave which showed that all nuclear states threaten to use them under certain circumstances? That’s what nuclear weapons are supposed to be — a permanent threat.
That might be the reason — because it’s involved in an actual war over an issue it considers a vital issue? Why else?
Looks like NATO are going to admit Ukraine according to Jens Stoltenburg. Not good for the prospects of peace
RT is doing loads of propaganda on forced conscription in Ukraine, including daylight snatchings. What’s sauce for the goose is good for the gander: they’re at it in Russia too
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