Russian Tensions
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March 22, 2023 at 3:29 am #241694alanjjohnstoneKeymaster
It has been wishful thinking of TS that Ukraine becomes a radioactive hell-hole ever since the false stories of Ukraine planning a dirty bomb first emerged from Russia’s propaganda that he so readily ascribed to.
The war, like all wars, has caused immense environmental damage.
Both sides are responsible.
An overview of the ecological impact of the war.
March 22, 2023 at 5:32 am #241696TrueScotsmanBlocked“Don’t want to excuse the Warmongers and profiteers of the British capitalist class, but “radioactive hell hole”????
I guess we can add physics and chemistry to the very long list of things that True Nazi knows fuck all about”
Right, so all those birth defects in Iraq were caused by regular old sand, eh? [moderator deleted unnecessary abuse]
“Depleted uranium, despite it’s rather benign sounding name, is not depleted of radioactivity or toxicity.”
If I said the sun rises in the east and sets in the west you’d deny it. Clown.
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March 22, 2023 at 5:35 am #241697TrueScotsmanBlockedModerator Notice.
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March 22, 2023 at 6:18 am #241701robbo203ParticipantThis post from True Scotsman was deleted due to contravening Rule 7 of the forum guidelines
Good. About time too. This individual seems to have no conception of how to debate without viciously insulting his opponent. We all use colorful language but TS crosses the line
March 22, 2023 at 6:29 am #241702alanjjohnstoneKeymasterAnother article on the threat to the environment caused by war
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-how-the-war-is-making-soil-and-water-toxic/a-64907471
And when the war ends, who will pay for the clean-up?
March 22, 2023 at 6:32 am #241703alanjjohnstoneKeymasterMODERATOR NOTICE
I’ll remind Robbo of what else Rule 7 says, “Do not respond to such messages.”
Leave the moderating to the moderator.
March 22, 2023 at 7:26 am #241704TrueScotsmanBlockedAbuse again deleted by moderator.
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March 22, 2023 at 8:06 am #241705robbo203ParticipantDeleted for repeating the original abuse
_______________________________You support the war and the alleged war aims of the Russian capitalist state. It seems hypocritical in the extreme for you to now protest that you don’t like the consequences that this war will bring. Even more so since you have gleefully and triumphantly used such disgusting dehumanizing expressions as turning people into “fertilizer”.
If you don’t like the consequences of war then don’t support war. It’s as simple as that. Socialists vigorously oppose both sides in this obscene conflict between rival capitalist blocs. At least we cannot be accused of hypocrisy and humbug, ridicule us as you might.
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March 22, 2023 at 8:10 am #241708alanjjohnstoneKeymasterTS -“The crazies in Natostan are considering a false flag dirty bomb attack to justify their entrance into the conflict. But really, both sides are just as bad. Lol”
TS – The nazis in Kiev don’t care if the land there becomes radioactive.
AJJ “It is taking the scorched earth strategy to an extreme”
TS -That’s nazis for you.
TS – And what would you call the countless deliberate acts of shelling of and attacks on nuclear power plants if not an attempt to set off a dirty bomb?Promoting a false idea that Ukraine would inflict such catastrophic self-injury was just as ridiculous as those who tried to blame Russia for the Nord Stream sabotage.
Russia accepts that it was a conspiracy theory
https://www.ibtimes.com/iaea-says-no-evidence-ukraine-using-dirty-bomb-against-russia-3632132
The relevant section
“We’re quite satisfied because we raised the awareness,” Russia’s Deputy U.N. Ambassador Dmitry Polyanskiy told reporters at the UN at the time. “I don’t mind people saying that Russia is crying wolf if this doesn’t happen because this is a terrible, terrible disaster that threatens potentially the whole of the Earth.”
TS can hide behind semantics but when his views are placed side by side that he wants Ukrainians and Poles to be turned into fertilizer, I leave it up to the reader to judge who is the humanitarian.
Please cite any glorification taken in the casualties suffered by Russia that you have repeatedly expressed for the Ukrainians dead and wounded
March 22, 2023 at 8:30 am #241710Bijou DrainsParticipantTrue Nazi stated that depleted uranium would turn The Ukraine into a “nuclear hell hole”.
As I said I don’t wish to provide any support to the British arms industry, but “nuclear hell hole!!!!!”
The most vocal critics of the use of depleted uranium in Iraq have not labelled the country a “nuclear hell hole”, despite the wholesale use of the material in the western invasion of Iraq.
Suddenly the unrepentant Hitler supporter is worried about the children of the Ukraine, despite the fact that last week he was crowing about his fantasy of those same children (and their mothers and fathers) being “turned into fertiliser”. True Nazi’s attempt to claim the moral high ground is about as putrid as his support for the Russian Capitalist Class.
True Nazi hasn’t even got the sense to realise that he is making himself look even more stupid (if that is possible) with his claims that British shells will turn the Ukraine into (his words) a “nuclear hell hole”. That’s because he has previously claimed that the UK only has ammunition supplies for 3 days. So a nuclear hell hole is going to be created by what he claims are a tiny amount of insignificant ammunition. Even in your narcissistic fantasy world, True Nazi, you can’t have it both ways. Will British ammunition turn the Ukraine into a nuclear hell hole, or will it run out in three days?
What’s even more ironic is that Warwick Hunt claims that he fully supported the state capitalist regime in the Soviet Union. That would be the same regime whose underfunded and dilapidated power plant in Chernobyl actually did create a nuclear hell hole.
Still, positive out of a negative, as I’ve said before, the more time True Nazi spends on this forum the less time he has available to control, bully, abuse and harm his family, colleagues, dog and friends (if he has any)
March 22, 2023 at 1:58 pm #241716TrueScotsmanBlocked“The most vocal critics of the use of depleted uranium in Iraq have not labelled the country a “nuclear hell hole”, despite the wholesale use of the material in the western invasion of Iraq.”
And I thought it wasn’t possible to be dumber than All in yet here we have it. I sai radioactive not nuclear ya tard.
“Huge increase in leukaemia and birth defects in Iraq”
But having your baby born with no brain, or anus, or eyes. That’s not hellish. You are a joke. An unmitigated, pathetic joke. Lol.
March 22, 2023 at 2:06 pm #241717TrueScotsmanBlocked“TS -“The crazies in Natostan are considering a false flag dirty bomb attack to justify their entrance into the conflict. But really, both sides are just as bad. Lol”
TS – The nazis in Kiev don’t care if the land there becomes radioactive.
AJJ “It is taking the scorched earth strategy to an extreme”
TS -That’s nazis for you.
TS – And what would you call the countless deliberate acts of shelling of and attacks on nuclear power plants if not an attempt to set off a dirty bomb?Promoting a false idea that Ukraine would inflict such catastrophic self-injury was just as ridiculous as those who tried to blame Russia for the Nord Stream sabotage.
Russia accepts that it was a conspiracy theory
https://www.ibtimes.com/iaea-says-no-evidence-ukraine-using-dirty-bomb-against-russia-3632132
The relevant section
“We’re quite satisfied because we raised the awareness,” Russia’s Deputy U.N. Ambassador Dmitry Polyanskiy told reporters at the UN at the time. “I don’t mind people saying that Russia is crying wolf if this doesn’t happen because this is a terrible, terrible disaster that threatens potentially the whole of the Earth.”
TS can hide behind semantics but when his views are placed side by side that he wants Ukrainians and Poles to be turned into fertilizer, I leave it up to the reader to judge who is the humanitarian.
Please cite any glorification taken in the casualties suffered by Russia that you have repeatedly expressed for the Ukrainians dead and wounded”
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March 22, 2023 at 5:03 pm #241726Bijou DrainsParticipantCrusty the Clown said “But having your baby born with no brain, or anus, or eyes. That’s not hellish”
I’m not denying that is hellish and the responsibility of the US led invasion of Iraq. However According to you the UK have only 2-3 days of ammunition so if you’re right (there’s always a first time) then the risk is minimal, unless of course you are wrong (which is more than likely judging by your track record). So I’ll ask you again, we’re you right about the level of UK ammunition stocks, or are you wrong (I’ll take your silence as an admission that you acknowledge that you were wrong).
However the role of the guardian of the children of the Ukraine is a role that I’ll fits you. Your faux moral outrage is betrayed by your frequent celebration at the prospect of members of the Ukrainian working class (and the Polish working class) being turned into fertiliser.
Your ongoing temper tantrums also betray your childlike narcissism, clearly if you don’t get your way, or if you can’t bully others around you to pretend that you’re right, you throw your toys out of the pram.
Like I said in an earlier post, we’re not laughing with you, we’re laughing at you.
March 22, 2023 at 6:10 pm #241729alanjjohnstoneKeymasterTS promoted a conspiracy theory of a planned use of a dirty bomb by Ukrainian so-called Nazis, a view that even the Russian UN official accepted was a false one.
I suggest that TS seeks to prove his belief as correct, and the only way is definitive evidence of an actual plot being carried out. And then he would proudly declare “I told you so” and award himself Stalin’s red star for his accurate prediction.
He then switches to the shelling of a nuclear power station (installations designed to withstand direct attack) as evidence that indeed the creation of a dirty bomb was the intention, despite the more significant threat was the destruction of the energy grid by Russia that is vital in permitting the safe storage of radioactive waste.
This bombing of the electric grid TS repeatedly approved of as justifiable, deliberately ignoring the potential for radioactive leaks.
Whether TS sought Ukraine to be a deliberate radioactive hell-hole or not does not hide his approval of the risks that could bring about such a scenario.
TS wants us to accept a literal reading of his words. I am well able to read between the lines and can understand them in the context of his other sociopathic remarks. It is an ugly truth that TS is so vehemently in denial yet he readily approves of Ukrainians (and latterly, Poles) being turned into fertiliser?
Just where have I, BD or Robbo taken any pleasure in the suffering of Russian soldiers that TS delightedly has expressed over Ukrainian victims, that he justifies on the spurious reasons that they are all Nazi-Banderites and therefore deserving of death and pain?
I will NOT apologise and if TS who we have permitted a platform for his beliefs doesn’t like being on the receiving end of the treatment he himself dishes out almost daily, he is free to depart from the forum and never to return to it.
But where else can he go?
March 22, 2023 at 11:28 pm #241732TrueScotsmanBlocked“I’m not denying that is hellish and the responsibility of the US led invasion of Iraq. However According to you the UK have only 2-3 days of ammunition so if you’re right (there’s always a first time) then the risk is minimal,”
Hahaahahahaahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Clown.
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