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  • #237248
    TrueScotsman
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    “Support in Russia for the war has fallen dramatically according to a leaked report from the Kremlin.”

    Fake news.

    https://www.levada.ru/en/2022/11/01/conflict-with-ukraine-october-2022/

    #237249
    TrueScotsman
    Blocked

    “Now, are you claiming that NATO nations can be defined as Nazi, as well?”

    I didn’t say that. Just that NATOstan is allied to the Kiev Nazis. You didn’t notice?

    #237250
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    TS – “NATOstani/Nazi aggression”

    The ambiguity was yours.

    #237251
    TrueScotsman
    Blocked

    So what do you call a Nazi ally?

    #237252
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The Levada poll does make good reading

    I find it promising that support for peace talks is growing

    In October 36% supported the continuation of hostilities.
    Support to start negotiations 57%.

    Support for the mobilisation – strongest among the least likely to be called up (66%). With a majority who oppose it being in the age groups that may well be subject to conscription.

    I’m not at all surprised that most people support their country when it goes to war. It is par for the course for all countries. However, 20% against the war is a good solid base that can grow.

    The Meduza article here
    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/30/make-peace-not-war

    Other news from Meduza

    Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said that Russia’s defense purchasing will increase by almost 50 percent in 2023
    Russian Ministry of Finance, Russia’s defense spending was 4.7 trillion rubles (or about $77 billion) in 2022. The Russian newspaper Vedomosti reported that this is 1.2 trillion rubles (or $20 billion) more than the approved 2022 military spending budget. Close to 5 trillion rubles are being allocated to defense for 2023, and 4.6 trillion for 2024.

    Russia’s defense purchasing is only part of its total defense budget. Traditionally, about half of the defense spending goes towards purchasing military goods and equipment, as well as financing military contracts. The rest covers the military’s operating expenditures, the servicemen’s allowances, training, and similar expenses

    Russian Senator Lyudmila Narusova, speaking to the Federation Council.

    “The fifth-grade bulletproof vest that cost 7,000 rubles last January, now costs 135,000,” Narusova said. She added that the Federal Antitrust Service (FAS) should find out why Russian manufacturers don’t deliver the bulletproof army gear directly to the Russian military, selling it instead to consumers at market prices.

    Also reading its website I note Russia too is suffering energy price inflation, a 3rd rise in 2022 when only an annual price rise is customary. But they do promise no more rises for 2023.

    #237253
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    TS – “So what do you call a Nazi ally?” – Putin

    #237254
    TrueScotsman
    Blocked

    “TS – “So what do you call a Nazi ally?” – Putin”

    Lol. All-in with NATOstan has completely lost the plot. He thinks Ukraine and Russia are now allies. Well, when the Ukronazis are defeated that possibility exists. We can only hope.

    #237255
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    In several occasions we have published in this forum the definition of Fascism/Nazism and it indicates that he has not read it, but according to the definition of the left-wingers, Leninists/Trostkyist/Stalinists Putin fill out all the elements and requirements to be a Fascist/Nazis, but based on the real socialist definition, there re not any fascists/nazis,( 0nly Neo Nazis ) or any fascists/nazis alliance, and still like during WW2 the main problem is capitalism, it is not Fascism or Nazism, it was only a pretext ( like now ) to start an imperialist war, for markets, raw materials, resources and spheres of influences.

    Ukraine territory has more than 14 trillions in natural resources needed for the modern industry, probably more in abundance than the Orinoco basin of Venezuela, the whole eastern coast of South America has coltan and the Chinese and the Russian are after those resources, and the USA does not want them to take it because they also needed to their own modern industry

    When the British/USA/French capitalists made alliances with the German Nazis and provided financing to them, the soviets call them Nazis allies, but when they made alliance with the German Nazis they call it commercial trade, despite the fact that Stalin gave approval to Molotov to turn the Soviet Union in one of the members of the Axis alliance, but the Leninists/Stalinist deny that, as well they deny that the agreement had a secretive clause, as well, the soviets made secretive agreement with the USA during the war with Japan.

    The German pilots knew the location of all the Soviet airplanes fields because they were the ones who trained the soviet pilots, and war tanks operators, and the Nazis knew their military weakness, and they called it a commercial trade, it was not a nazis alliance

    #237257
    TrueScotsman
    Blocked

    “Stalin gave approval to Molotov to turn the Soviet Union in one of the members of the Axis alliance”

    God level bullshit. Lol.

    #237258
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It is bullshit for you because you do not read any books, or literature, you just repeat like a parrot, There are several books written about the Stalin-hitler pact, including the possible alliance with the axis, and that pact created an enormous division among the Stalinists and Trotskyist movement ( Trotsky also continued supporting the Soviet Union despite the signing of the pact and the alliance ) because there were many who did not support the pact.Probably, you have not read the works of Raya Dunayeskaya who was personal secretary of Trotsky and she mentioned on her books the details of the pact and the alliance. Probably, you do not know that the KGB agent ( Mercader ) who killed Trotsky was an ex Trotskyist who was known by the peoples who were in Mexico with him

    #237260
    robbo203
    Participant

    “Now, are you claiming that NATO nations can be defined as Nazi, as well?”

    I didn’t say that. Just that NATOstan is allied to the Kiev Nazis. You didn’t notice?

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    If the Ukrainian capitalist regime is Nazi then so is the Russian capitalist regime. Neither of them calls themselves Nazi but they are both authoritarian repressive right-wing oligarchies. If you are going to play around with words then at least be consistent. Your problem is you haven’t got a clue what Nazi means. For you, it’s just a convenient swearword to label what you perceive to be an enemy

    #237261
    robbo203
    Participant

    “Support in Russia for the war has fallen dramatically according to a leaked report from the Kremlin.”

    Fake news.
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    What is fake? That there was a leaked report from the Kremlin or that what that report said is fake.

    At any rate, it doesn’t alter the fact that more workers in both Russia and Ukraine rejecting this sordid capitalist war is good news

    #237262
    TrueScotsman
    Blocked

    “What is fake? That there was a leaked report from the Kremlin or that what that report said is fake.”

    Both.

    #237263
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    https://www.newsweek.com/russian-support-poll-ukraine-war-collapsed-negotiations-1763888

    Internal Russian news outlet have indicated that the support for Ukraine-War has decreased to only 25%

    #237264
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Fiona Hill on Putin’s qualities. Why is her opinion of any value? Because she studied Putin’s politics.

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