Russian Tensions
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November 21, 2022 at 4:13 am #236542TrueScotsmanBlocked
Mewling Socialista’s source on Russia’s neo-Nazi “problem” (drum roll)…
“The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI)…the world’s oldest and the UK’s leading defence and security think tank.”
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
November 21, 2022 at 4:38 am #236543AnonymousInactiveSimilar to your Moon of Alabama, and other ex CIA and military experts that support Russia military. During the 60 and 70 many leftiwngs organizations were inflitared by ex CIA versed on Leninism and anti imperialist and they were real CIA agents, similar paid Russian agent like you. The reality is that there are more Neo nazis groups in Russia than in Ukraine, and they existed during the time that Stalin made alliance with the Nazis.
Fascism and the New Russian Nationalism
A. James GregorThis book describes the existence of Neo nazis groups in Russia since the time of the Soviet Union
November 21, 2022 at 5:50 am #236545AnonymousInactivehttps://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/qanon
Qanon group which supports Donald Trump says also that the world is controlled by the Deep State. You are citing concept used by ultra right wingers, Christian nationalist and ultra nationalists who also support the US Neo Nazis groups.
It looks that you do not know that every state is the super structure of any economic system ( explained by Karl Marx ) a nation state does not represent the workers, the nation state is a product of capitalism. Assad represents the ruling class of Syria. You are the real mewling or novice. The Assad family has been in power since 1970, it is considered a dictatorship and Russia is supporting a dictator
November 21, 2022 at 7:20 am #236549robbo203ParticipantIt looks like Russian capitalism is due to contract by 4.2 % this year according to Russia’s own Economy Ministry and the longer-term prospects do not look good with sanctions starting to bite and what with the flight of many trained professional workers. Living standards are declining for the average Russian worker though according to this article not enough yet to trigger serious social unrest. The oligarchic parasite class that the Putin regime represents and serves will doubtless only be marginally inconvenienced
Despite the territorial gains of Russian imperialism in the form of the Donbas region in Ukraine etc the economic outlook is not looking good
November 21, 2022 at 7:42 am #236550alanjjohnstoneKeymasterTS – >>>“Support” for Syria? Assad’s government represented Syria.<<< You defend the rights of Russian-speakers to form their own republic so do you extend similar rights to those who speak Kurd to breakaway and form their own republic? Or do you believe those who are trying to establish self-governing Rojova are CIA-Nazis.
November 21, 2022 at 8:28 am #236551Bijou DrainsParticipantBD – “it would be reasonable to estimate using the official Russian death figures that 15,000 Russian and allied soldiers will have died.”
True Narcissist states “I would agree with those mumbers. The Ukrainians on the other hand have lost at least 100,000 dead possibly much higher. Ukrainian losses are unsustainable, Russian losses are not. That is why Russia will win and decisively”
Big difference is that I made it clear that I the estimate based on questionable data made from Russian sources. Making clear that the even the figures Russian agencies have put forward are very high, in comparison to other conflicts, using data to back this up.
The Narcissistic one has merely grabbed a figure from his fertile imagination with no comparable use of figures. A first year undergraduate submitting shite like that would get their head in their hands to play with, if they did that. [moderator deleted] I’ll let others make their own minds up on that issue.
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November 21, 2022 at 9:31 am #236552Thomas_MoreParticipant“True Narcissist states “I would agree with those mumbers. The Ukrainians on the other hand have lost at least 100,000 dead possibly much higher. Ukrainian losses are unsustainable, Russian losses are not. That is why Russia will win and decisively””
And TN must be proud and happy about it.
November 21, 2022 at 11:11 am #236557TrueScotsmanBlocked“You defend the rights of Russian-speakers to form their own republic so do you extend similar rights to those who speak Kurd to breakaway and form their own republic?”
I do not. They are Contras working in league with US imperialism. You know nothing of the Kurds in Syria. Learn some history.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/541998-kurdish-project-syria-new-israel/
November 21, 2022 at 11:15 am #236560TrueScotsmanBlocked“And TN must be proud and happy about it.”
Proud? It wasn’t my accomplishment. Happy? Yes. The defeat of a fascist state’s army is something to be happy about.
November 21, 2022 at 11:20 am #236561TrueScotsmanBlocked“Big difference is that I made it clear that I the estimate based on questionable data made from Russian sources.”
Believe whatever you like and I’ll believe whatever I like. I believe those numbers about correct.
“Making clear that the even the figures Russian agencies have put forward are very high, in comparison to other conflicts, using data to back this up.”
Russia is in a conflict with Europe’s most powerful army. Of course it’s going to be bloody.
“The Narcissistic one has merely grabbed a figure from his fertile imagination with no comparable use of figures.”
Erm, no. It’s based on Russia’s numbers and supported by BBC reporting. No imagining going on.
“A first year undergraduate submitting shite like that would get their head in their hands to play with, if they did that.”
How would you know? I can’t imagine you even graduated kindy.
[moderator deleted] I’ll let others make their own minds up on that issue.”
Allen, I think that’s grounds for banning, no?
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November 21, 2022 at 12:05 pm #236562Bijou DrainsParticipantThomas More:
I think it is important to realise that for TN, this is not really a political question. TN is not active in a political party (at least he has never stated which political party he is a member of, despite being asked this on several occasions), he does not actively campaign for any political organisation (from what anyone can see from his posts).
His support for Putin and the other despots he fawns over is not a political act, it’s really just an extension of his need to feel powerful and to reinforce his self esteem (which on the surface appears to be high and which he likes to feel is high, but we and he all know is cripplingly low). Being associated with powerful groups allows TN to feel some of the reflected “glory” of the sociopaths he so admires.
This is evidenced by the fact that he has been exposed on several occasions by his lack of understanding of the basic theoretical constructs of Marxism. He has dismissed the work of Engels as “just a load of quotes”, outside of Marxist thought he has recently been shown to have no understanding of Lenin’s theory of Imperialism (see recent posts) , he knows nothing of the work of Mao, Stalin etc, he is unaware of the nature of the Sino – Soviet split and the impact of this on his claim to support both sides of the split, he has no answer to the questions raised about the Molotov Von Ribbentrop pact or the fact that the “great” Stalin was happy to supply a wide variety of goods and arms to the Nazis he so despises. He commits schoolboy errors regarding facts and figures (for example dismissing the BBC and then using an out of date BBC report to support his claims) the list goes on.
Those of us who remember TN first emerging on the forum might remember that his first few posts, which were about China, came from a starting position that he assumed that we would support his views regarding the Chinese “Communist” Party. This demonstrates how lazy he is, how little research he does and really how little he even knows about parties that describe themselves as Socialist. Considering the myriad of parties who describe themselves as Socialist, how many can you think of that would support the Chinese “Communist” Party?
In summary TN claims to support the regimes he outlines so that he can look big and powerful and perhaps in the vain hope that someone will find him windswept and interesting.
It’s a bit like the kids, back in the day, that claimed to be anarchists because they had listened to a Sex Pistols song and had put a safety pin through their noses. Or perhaps like a supposed football fan who doesn’t know how the offside rule!
One of the defining characteristics of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is the need to be acknowledged as being correct in the things that they say. In general those with NPD will brow beat family, friends and colleagues until they just give in and say that the narcissist is correct (even though both parties know that it is a hollow acknowledgement). Alternatively they will develop controlling and coercive interpersonal relationships (often with vulnerable partners), which force their relationship partners to agree with view and opinions.
The thing that TN is really struggling with is the fact that on this forum he isn’t getting any admiration or even positive feedback. He feels he isn’t getting all of the acknowledgement he should for displaying his “pearls of wisdom”, and this frustrates him. To his mind we should bow down before him, or at least bow down to his powerful sociopathic heroes. He cannot acknowledge the fact that Putin’s invasion has not worked out as plan, he is still convinced that the Russian Army will overwhelm its enemies and the purge of Ukrainian Nazis will begin. Ironically it’s rather like Hitler’s call from the bunker to call for the non-existent Steiner Detachment to drive the Soviets out of Berlin!
This presentation is a typically narcissistic response. A guy who I worked with insisted that he hadn’t been sectioned; he was only in the secure hospital because he chose to be there and that he could walk out whenever he wanted to. Another, who had committed a number of murders, insisted that the figure was much higher and that several members of his family (who clearly were alive) were actually dead.
In many ways whilst we should be hostile to TN’s deeply anti working class rhetoric (they cannot be described as views or opinions) I genuinely feel we should also as human beings have some sympathy for his plight. People with this presentation very rarely seek out any form of support and or treatment.
What I would sincerely say to TS, it is possible for someone with narcissistic personality to develop new coping skills, improve relationships, and decrease distress levels. The myth that therapy can’t help people with narcissistic personality largely stems from the fact that many never actually seek such help. They might not even be aware they need it.
Therapeutic approaches such as Schema Therapy, Dialectical Behavioural Therapy and Gestalt Therapy have shown good results and may be something to be considered.
November 21, 2022 at 12:40 pm #236565alanjjohnstoneKeymasterIt’s as I expected from yourself, no understanding of your own double standards.
Russia holds an ambivalent attitude toward the Kurds and they make tactical alliances with them.
I have no doubt that Russia’s amicable relationship with the Kurds is opportunistic, as was America’s, but you resort to hyperbole. Equating Kurdish forces with nun-killing Nicaraguan Contras is not learning anything from history.
I’ll start with a Russian source
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Kurdish formations are ready to provide security for Russia’s task force
https://tass.com/defense/978971
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Russian military observers will be deployed to Afrin and al-Shahba, northwestern Syria, to coordinate with Kurdish and local forces and “maintain security,”https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/29082017
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The Russian-Kurdish cooperation in Deir ez-Zor “developed on Russia’s initiative,” an official from the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the YPG’s political winghttps://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2017/12/turkey-syria-kurds-move-closer-russia.html
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Russia had already helped to end clashes on the ground following a pact between the Kurds and Damascus which has seen Syrian government forces and allied Russian forces return to areas under Kurdish controlhttps://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syrian-kurds-urge-russia-impose-no-fly-zone-halt-turkish-airstrikes
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Turkey protests as PYD opens office in Moscowhttps://www.trtworld.com/europe/international-network-of-pkk-affiliates-to-expand-with-a-new-us-office-17016
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Russia has displayed sympathy toward the Syrian Kurds and has even invited rival Kurdish groups to Moscow in an attempt to bring about unity between them
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Kurds in Syria have been U.S. allies but now they’re making a deal with Russia. Russian flags are flying in Kurdish territoryhttps://www.npr.org/2019/12/02/784225309/kurds-in-syria-make-a-deal-with-russia
—–The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Council, political wing of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), on Monday signed a memorandum of understanding with a Syrian Marxist party in Moscow. The memo calls for aligning the SDF with the Syrian Army and finding a solution to the Kurdish issue.
November 21, 2022 at 12:52 pm #236566TrueScotsmanBlockedGosh, what a screed Bojo’s [moderator deleted]. I didn’t get past the first paragraph as it immediately descended into you playing dress-ups as a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist once more. Don’t know who your audience is. Too yawny for me!
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November 21, 2022 at 12:52 pm #236567Bijou DrainsParticipantHi Allen (sic)
Just a quick note to explain that I specifically stated that [moderator deleted].
However, as the issue has been raised, I think his ability to manage to spell you name correctly (given that it is spelt correctly in your user name) may be pertinent for others to take into consideration in their musings as to whether or not [moderator deleted] I of course shall remain silent on the issue
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November 21, 2022 at 12:53 pm #236568TrueScotsmanBlockedYou gonna moderate All-in or can I start [moderator deleted] You know I want to.
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