Russian Tensions
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November 17, 2022 at 2:18 pm #236345Thomas_MoreParticipant
“My commonsense still leads me to believe it was unintentional and Zelinsky is merely trying to make as much political propaganda out of it as he can.”
Quite so.
November 17, 2022 at 4:18 pm #236346AnonymousInactive#236342 REPLY
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What would Zelensky have to gain by provoking a world war in which we all die, including him and his?________________________________________________________________
He is like Donald Trump who knows more than the Generals. The US Congress is already passing a bill which will provide more modern weapons to the Ukranian government before the new house of representative takes over
November 17, 2022 at 4:25 pm #236347Thomas_MoreParticipant“He is like Donald Trump who knows more than the Generals.”
What do you mean? He knows it wouldn’t be WW3 if NATO came in, or he doesn’t care?
Is he that stupid?
November 17, 2022 at 5:08 pm #236352AnonymousInactiveThomas
I mean that TS knows more about military strategy than the general. I don’t think that NATO/USA, Ukraine, and Russia want to start another European war. Donald Trump was an expert on everything, and knowleagable on nothing and he said that he knew more than the generals and he did not even know how to handle a water pistol, and he ditched going to the vietnman war, there are bunch of keyboard warriors supporting wars, and national liberation, but they do not dare to go to any war
November 17, 2022 at 7:08 pm #236354Thomas_MoreParticipantI thought you were referring to Zelensky.
November 17, 2022 at 10:51 pm #236357Young Master SmeetModeratorJustifications for destroying civilian infrastructure
“he commented on the massive strike that the Russian Armed Forces carried out on Ukraine’s military command and control system and the related energy facilities on November 15, Peskov stressed that “the infrastructure facilities in question were directly or indirectly related to the military potential of Ukraine and the Ukrainian regime.”
Of course, the just war fantasists would tell us that civilian infrastructure is outside war and a war crime to hit, but here the Russians can define it as a military target as indirectly related to military use (and doubtless NATO hit similar targets in Serbia all those years ago).
But, note the headline “Special operation does not depend on weather conditions” it’s just a freak accident that “millions of Ukrainian citizens who remained without electric and thermal power supply on November 15 due to combat operations at a time when weather forecasts predicted lower air temperatures” and of course “Peskov said that this was a result of strikes on military infrastructure due to Kiev’s reluctance to conduct negotiations with Russia.” The cry of the bully through the ages.
November 17, 2022 at 11:06 pm #236358AnonymousInactiveStephan articles are always on the spot The concept of false flag is a term widely used by the conspiracists theoriticians
November 17, 2022 at 11:16 pm #236361Young Master SmeetModeratorMy guess is Zelensky is playing to his home audience. Certainly, the Kremlin apologists are making hay over the fact that he won’t even entertain the possibility that it was a Ukrainian missile that came down.
November 17, 2022 at 11:55 pm #236368TrueScotsmanBlocked“People, like many who write rubbish on Quora, who are blase about nuclear exchanges, have really no realistic concept of the power of such weapons.”
Well I’ll be darned, something we actually agree on.
November 18, 2022 at 12:03 am #236369TrueScotsmanBlocked“here the Russians can define it as a military target as indirectly related to military use”
The electrical grid is not indirectly related to military use it is directly related to military use. Ukraine’s trains run on electricity. To stop them transporting troops and war material around the country the Russians must cut the power.
Will that make life difficult for the civilian population? Very much so but it will also shorten the war. A shorter war means fewer civilian casualties.
Russia did not start this war Ukraine/NATOstan did. As with any side that starts a war all the horrors that result are their direct responsibility.
November 18, 2022 at 12:14 am #236370alanjjohnstoneKeymaster“Russia did not start this war Ukraine/NATOstan did”
When was Russia invaded? When was there any attack on Russia?
Russia illegally under UN Charter intervened in another country’s civil war.
Russia illegally annexed another nation’s territory, again in breach of the UN Charter.
Even if the claim to be a pre-emptive war is accurate, it is still illegal under international law.
November 18, 2022 at 12:15 am #236371TrueScotsmanBlocked“Stephan articles are always on the spot The concept of false flag is a term widely used by the conspiracists theoriticians”
Right, false flags are like unicorns, they don’t exist. Moron Socialista, there are entire branches of the military that do nothing but manufacture lies and false flags. It’s called miltary deception. Back to kindergarten for you.
November 18, 2022 at 12:20 am #236373TrueScotsmanBlocked“When was Russia invaded? When was there any attack on Russia?”
When Donbass was recognised as independent it sought protection from Russia against Ukrainian agression.
“Russia illegally under UN Charter intervened in another country’s civil war.”
Scott Ritter has demonstrated that Russia’s actions were not illegal under international law.
https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/01/russia-ukraine-the-law-of-war-crime-of-aggression/
November 18, 2022 at 12:23 am #236374TrueScotsmanBlocked“I thought you were referring to Zelensky.”
Moron Socialista doesn’t know which day of the week it is let alone what he wrote 5 mins ago.. There’s clearly something not quite right going on upstairs. Don’t pay him any heed, I certainly don’t.
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November 18, 2022 at 12:29 am #236375TrueScotsmanBlocked“There are several news reports reporting a weakening of support from China.”
No doubt you’ll dismiss them as Guradian lies”Bojo’s Brain Fart you’re starting to learn. You know the only evidence you have is shite and yet, like a blow(hard)fly, you credulously cling to said shite anyways.
“The information I have provided for you, regarding NPD (free of charge, I might add!) is based not on “pseudo science””
Bojo’s Brain Fart is still playing dress ups as a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist. How adorable. Now, run along and play child, the adults are talking.
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