Russian Tensions
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https://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2022-06-10/the-ambivalence-in-russian-chinese-friendship
The ambivalence in Russian-Chinese friendship
Instead of looking for some conspiratorial cause i will stick to my initial assumption from message #236261
“Long ago I remember the media made much of a missile attack against an Israel town until Israel explained that it was their own missile, part of Iron Dome…what goes up must come down somewhere.”
My educated guess appears to have been later confirmed by the wreckage being identified as from a S-300 surface-to-air missile.
Just as I discounted any Russian motive, similarly I would have suspected that Ukraine would not have engaged in any false flag op against an ally vital to it, especially a plot that could be so easily detected.
The IAEA dismissed TS pet theory that Ukraine was planning a dirty nuke bomb and Russia itself now accepts that conclusion by the IAEA
https://www.ibtimes.com/iaea-says-no-evidence-ukraine-using-dirty-bomb-against-russia-3632132
As for the WSPUS assessment, TS may claim it supports his view but it runs counter that Russia is preparing a Winter War when the ground is frozen
“Winter is approaching. The weather will impose a pause in hostilities.”The author is entitled to his own opinion but the claim of a shortage of shells is made from a Sept28 report. Since then US has purchased 100,000 rounds of 155mm artillery shells to be delivered to Ukraine.
Plenty more of suppliers around the world only too willing to make a fast buck from war.
Also the USA is passing an arms requisition bill to replenish its stocks reported on our own blog.
https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-war-profiteers.html
In the coming days, the verdict of Dutch judges trial in absentia of three Russians and a Donbass separatist into the downing of MH-17 civil airliner will be published.
The so called son of the new American revolution is just a website of patriotic/nationalis American similar to the Qanon group, it was the same slogan used by the group of peoples that assaulted the congress on 1/6 and most of them are followers of Donald Trump and the QAnon conspiracist groups, as well, this website publishes many conspiracy theories and they are antivaxxers. and they do not believe in the medical prevention of anticovid masks. Some historians have considered that the so called American revolution was a counter revolution to keep slavery
There is something very suspicious about that missile that killed those two poor sods in Poland. Why is Zelensky denying that it came from Ukraine when everybody else (the US, Poland, Russia) is saying that it did and could only have?
We know that Zelensky makes things up and tells lies to put pressure on NATO to supply his armed forces with more and more powerful weapons, but why would he fall out with his masters over this? Why continue to lie when his masters know he is lying? Why upset them when he knows or should know that without NATO military and US financial support his regime is nothing?
“Russia is helping to usher in a new, multipolar, anti-imperialist world order.”
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Absolute BS. TS does not know what imperialism is. What we are seeing is simply the slight reconfiguration of the imperialist world order with American imperialism standing to lose ground to Chinese imperialism. Capitalism is global. Imperialism is simply the political and economic expression of capitalism’s grow-or-die expansionist dynamic. Every corner of this capitalist world is latently or manifestly imperialist because every part of the world is capitalistTrue Narcissist – There are several news reports reporting a weakening of support from China. No doubt you’ll dismiss them as Guradian lies and rely on the pro authoritarian rabble you admire so much.
TN “pretend you’re a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist?”
The information I have provided for you, regarding NPD (free of charge, I might add!) is based not on “pseudo science” but on the clinical diagnostic manuals the DSM 5 and it’s world wide equivalent ICD-11.
ICD-11, describes NPD in a similar way to the DSM 5:
“A disorder characterized by an enduring pattern of grandiose beliefs and arrogant behavior together with an overwhelming need for admiration and a lack of empathy for (and even exploitation of) others.
Personality disorder characterized by excessive self-love, egocentrism, grandiosity, exhibitionism, excessive needs for attention, and sensitivity to criticism.”You might note particularly the phrase “sensitivity to criticism”, your display of this feature is on going and very apparent.
You might care to note that ICD -11 is the recognised diagnostic manual used in your beloved China and Russia.
If it’s “pseudo science” perhaps you can explain the Chinese view on it, as described in the link below:
ICD-11 Implementation in China: Interview with Dr. Min Zhao and Dr. Jiang Long
As to linking this to your presentation, you’re doing the work for me with every post. You literally can’t help yourself.
“Instead of looking for some conspiratorial cause”
All-in with the Guardian’s narrative is going to ignore the possibility this is an attempted false flag despite the fact that the missiles were flying in the wrong direction to shoot down incoming Russian missiles, that Ukraine has a history of
carrying out false flag operations including Bucha, the attack on the opera house and the bombing of the maternity hospital in Mariuopol to name but three, that Zelensky continues to insist Russia was responsible and that NATO’s intervention is the only thing that can stave off the annihilation of the Ukrainian military. But no, All-in with the CIA doesn’t believe any of that even merits consideration.“The IAEA dismissed TS pet theory that Ukraine was planning a dirty nuke bomb”
The agency was only given permission to investigate three sites despite the fact Ukraine has many more where such a weapon could be manufactured. The IAEA has also shown itself either incompetent or compromised when its investigators insisted that they had no idea which side could have been shelling the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.
“Russia itself now accepts that conclusion by the IAEA”
Russian officials have made no such statement.
“As for the WSPUS assessment, TS may claim it supports his view but it runs counter that Russia is preparing a Winter War”
I was specifically referring to the claims about Kherson and nothing else.
“In the coming days, the verdict of Dutch judges trial in absentia of three Russians and a Donbass separatist into the downing of MH-17 civil airliner will be published.”
It’s guaranteed to be a whitewash. The Dutch are US butt-boys, the crash site was compromised from the very start and Russia was excluded from the investigation.
“Why is Zelensky denying that it came from Ukraine when everybody else (the US, Poland, Russia) is saying that it did and could only have?”
Surely to bring pressure on NATO to intervene militarily.
NATO’s Article 5 states that the parties to the NATO treaty “agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”
Poland is a party to the treaty.
>>>“Russia itself now accepts that conclusion by the IAEA” Russian officials have made no such statement.<<< Mea Culpa I misunderstood this statement in the report "We're quite satisfied because we raised the awareness," Russia's Deputy U.N. Ambassador Dmitry Polyanskiy told reporters at the UN at the time. "I don't mind people saying that Russia is crying wolf if this doesn't happen because this is a terrible, terrible disaster that threatens potentially the whole of the Earth."
“Surely to bring pressure on NATO to intervene militarily.”
In which case Zelinsky has overreached himself and has shot himself in the foot by lying. It just goes to reinforce the point constantly made by socialists here- you cannot believe the propaganda emanating from either side in this sordid capitalist conflict. A plague on both their houses!
“Surely to bring pressure on NATO to intervene militarily.”
Exactly, Lizzie! Good to know there’s at least one other person on this site with a bit of common sense.
“In which case Zelinsky has overreached himself and has shot himself in the foot by lying.”
All-in with reactionaries everywhere your naivete would be touching if you were like under 12. Zelensky does nothing but lie. He’s been lying since he came into office. Since when has he paid a price? Never! Lord man, grow up.
What would Zelensky have to gain by provoking a world war in which we all die, including him and his?
I cannot quite understand if Ukraine sought to provoke NATO intervention it used (if reports are accurate) a surface-to-air missile on an insignificant border town rather than making a precision strike using a Russian-made ground-to-ground rocket on one of the numerous military bases in Poland – a direct attack upon NATO.
My commonsense still leads me to believe it was unintentional and Zelinsky is merely trying to make as much political propaganda out of it as he can.
If Lizzie and TS are correct that it was a false flag op to incite NATO intervention, wiser heads in NATO have remained calm and have no intention of escalating the war.
Can we be sure if Zelensky is in 100% control of the army? Are rogue maverick commanders acting on their own?
Increasingly there is talk of talks with America declaring it is not feasible that Ukraine can re-take all occupied territory.
Experts say it is an unwinnable war. Russia’s tactics has switched to long-range attacks on civilian populations.
Has the front-line become stalemate trench warfare?
The threat of ending the re-supply of weapons to Ukraine may be what is needed to pressure them into negotiations.
People, like many who write rubbish on Quora, who are blase about nuclear exchanges, have really no realistic concept of the power of such weapons.
I would refer them to Carl Sagan, or even to Stephen Fry, who have both presented realistic documentaries on nuclear war.
Even were only India and Pakistan to have a nuclear exchange, it would spark a global nuclear winter. Even if “the other side” in a conflict never fired back, “our own side’s” doing so would kill us all. Most would be blind instantly on the receiving side, who were not immediately incinerated. There would be mass starvation. The Sun would be blocked out. The radiation would cover the globe, and we would soon be unable to breathe.
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