Russian Tensions
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February 14, 2022 at 5:07 pm #226439PJShannonKeymaster
‘What hold does the U.S. have over them?’
Er, being the only thing standing in the way of Russia taking over the whole of western Europe?
February 14, 2022 at 5:41 pm #226441TobyBelchParticipanthttps://www.rt.com/russia/549321-mps-unveil-bid-recognize-ukrainian/
I haven’t been on any of the SPGB sites for sometime. I hope my post makes sense.
I just saw a snippet of news on the Russia Today website. This could be significant, perhaps?
YFS, Andy D.
February 14, 2022 at 8:05 pm #226443AnonymousInactiveThe same intention that Stalin and the Soviet Union had during world war two which was to occupy Europe completely, and the invasion of Normandy stopped them to do that
February 14, 2022 at 9:07 pm #226446AnonymousInactiveLooks like Zelenskyy is now convinced Russia will invade on Wednesday.
February 14, 2022 at 9:13 pm #226447alanjjohnstoneKeymasterMS, I thought that it was Stalin’s insistence that the Second Front was opened with the invasion of Europe by US/UK.
You make it appear Stalin was opposed to D-Day. It was its delay that he opposed.
Historians always wondered whether the Soviets could have prevailed without it and won the war alone.
I think they could have.
The Allied bombing campaign on German cities and factories was perhaps more significant than the D-Day Landing.
But who knows?
February 14, 2022 at 9:22 pm #226448AnonymousInactiveAll are very specific about Wednesday as the day for the invasion.
Maybe the US is devising an “incident”?February 14, 2022 at 9:29 pm #226449ALBKeymaster”Looks like Zelenskyy is now convinced Russia will invade on Wednesday.”
Where did you read that? I couldn’t find anything about it on the internet after a quick search.
February 14, 2022 at 9:34 pm #226450AnonymousInactiveAl Jazeera just now, but their prelude to the news item had made it sound like that.
It turns out he is making it a day of “national unity” because it is the day it’s supposed to happen.Why it’s supposed to happen precisely on Wednesday, I don’t know, but the west seems convinced.
February 14, 2022 at 9:58 pm #226451ALBKeymasterThanks. Found it on Al Jazeera:
“Ukraine makes Wednesday ‘unity day’ in face of feared invasion
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has declared Wednesday – the day US officials warn might mark the start of a feared Russian invasion of the ex-Soviet state – national “unity day”.
“They tell us that February 16 will be the day of the invasion. We will make this into Unity Day. I have signed the corresponding decree,” Zelenskyy said in a national address.”
I am not sure that that means he is convinced that Russia will invade that day. The “they tell us” might even suggest that he personally doesn’t think it will happen. I don’t think Biden or Johnson really do either. They are just saying it is possible. Well, yes, it’s not impossible but, then, so are lots of things.
February 14, 2022 at 10:17 pm #226452AnonymousInactiveThe Daily Mail says it’s from a credible report.
February 14, 2022 at 10:30 pm #226453ALBKeymasterI think they mean that a report that Russia has everything in place to launch an invasion is what is “credible” not that they will actually do it at 6am on the morning of Wednesday 16 February.
Anyway let’s wait and see. Rendezvous-view the day after tomorrow.
February 14, 2022 at 10:33 pm #226454AnonymousInactiveDid they say 6 am?
So I can have a coffee and watch Everybody Loves Raymond first, to settle me before switching on the news.
February 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm #226455ALBKeymasterI am not sure they entered in that much detail. I think the word they used was “wolf”.
February 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm #226456AnonymousInactiveThe leftwinger taking sides. Raising the flag of anti-imperialism
As always the left-wingers taking sides and raising the flag of anti-imperialism
February 14, 2022 at 10:44 pm #226457AnonymousInactiveSo these twits are on the same side as the neo-nazis in Ukraine and the NATO politicians.
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