Russian Tensions
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November 14, 2022 at 6:19 pm #236176alanjjohnstoneKeymaster
Too lazy to go back into past messages but I recall TS saying that Wagner does not recruit murderers from the jails and that the reference to summary executions for refusing orders was in jest.
A dogs death for a dog
November 14, 2022 at 7:04 pm #236177AnonymousInactiveWagner groups is the same criminal organization as Blackwater, they are recruiting mercenary from Colombia and Venezuela like blackwater did by recruiting paramilitaries from Colombia and Chile
November 14, 2022 at 9:14 pm #236179Thomas_MoreParticipantYes Bijou. Another aspect of the loon is to reject someone’s entire corpus of work on the basis of one thing they don’t like. Conversely, once in thrall to conspiralunacy, they then embrace every other conspiracy “theory” they hear about.
November 14, 2022 at 9:26 pm #236180Bijou DrainsParticipantMany news outlets are reporting critical comments from the Chinese about Putin and the Russian conduct of the war. Seems like True Narcissist’s “anti imperialist coalition” of Russia and China is coming apart a little as the Chinese state and Biden start to cosying up to each other (all in the best interests of profit).
Obviously as TN will no doubt confirm, it’s all fake news and inspired by the CIA, etc. etc. etc.
Good job we have TN to keep us informed about the true course of Socialist progress, otherwise we might start to think that the Chinese “Communist” Party was an elite grouping who were only interested in the accumulation of capital and the exploitation of surplus value.
November 14, 2022 at 9:34 pm #236181Thomas_MoreParticipantWere TN at all consistent as a Stalinist, he should long ago have ditched Russia as “socialist” in 1956, let alone support Putin. He should similarly have ditched China upon the arrest of the Gang of Four in the 70s. His only idol today should be Kim Jong-un.
The psychopathic Mao, and Pol Pot – they were REAL True Stalinists!
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November 14, 2022 at 9:56 pm #236183Thomas_MoreParticipantLook at this obscenity: the man who killed over thirty million people:
November 14, 2022 at 11:15 pm #236186AnonymousInactivehttps://www.rt.com/russia/566501-russia-us-secret-talks/
Russia and US hold secret talks in Ankara – Kommersant
Moscow is reportedly represented by the country’s top spy at the negotiations
Russia and US hold secret talks in Ankara – Kommersant
Director of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service Sergey Naryshkin. © Sputnik/Alexey Nikolsky
A leading Moscow newspaper claimed, on Monday, that secret US-Russian talks are being hosted by Türkiye. Kommersant, a privately owned title which is known to have good sources in Moscow, reported, citing anonymous sources, that the un-announced meeting was taking place in Ankara.The outlet alleged that Russia had sent Sergey Naryshkin, director of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) to the talks.
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov later confirmed to Russian media that bilateral talks had taken place in Ankara, adding that they were held at the initiative of the US.
CNN claimed that CIA Director Bill Burns had represented Washington at the gathering, citing a “National Security Council spokesperson.”
Earlier this month, Western media reported that top Russian and US officials were engaging in undeclared contacts. According to the Wall Street Journal, US national-security adviser Jake Sullivan has been engaged with Yury Ushakov, a senior foreign policy aide to President Vladimir Putin, and with Nikolay Patrushev, Sullivan’s counterpart in the Russian government.
November 14, 2022 at 11:25 pm #236187AnonymousInactiveWere TN at all consistent as a Stalinist, he should long ago have ditched Russia as “socialist” in 1956, let alone support Putin. He should similarly have ditched China upon the arrest of the Gang of Four in the 70s. His only idol today should be Kim Jong-un.
The psychopathic Mao, and Pol Pot – they were REAL True Stalinists!
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The old Maoists used to call it the Gang of five because Mao was part of that group, and that they had a coup d’tat lead by Ten Siao Ping and his gang, and the so called four modernization was a slogan for capitalist Development, and that Putin was a pupil of Nikita Khrushchev, the one called an anti communist by the Albanian and Chinese leaders. Amateur Stalinists/Maoists do not know that historical passage. In reality it was just a struggle between state capitalism leaders in both sideshttps://www.marxists.org/history/erol/albania/challenges.pdf
November 14, 2022 at 11:33 pm #236188AnonymousInactive#236180 REPLY
Bijou Drains
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Many news outlets are reporting critical comments from the Chinese about Putin and the Russian conduct of the war. Seems like True Narcissist’s “anti imperialist coalition” of Russia and China is coming apart a little as the Chinese state and Biden start to cosying up to each other (all in the best interests of profit).Obviously as TN will no doubt confirm, it’s all fake news and inspired by the CIA, etc. etc. etc.
Good job we have TN to keep us informed about the true course of Socialist progress, otherwise we might start to think that the Chinese “Communist” Party was an elite grouping who were only interested in the accumulation of capital and the exploitation of surplus value.
——————————————————————————————————————————The agreements and alliance among capitalists are temporary, and Biden made him an offer that he could not refuse, because the main concern of capitalists and pro capitalist leaders is profits
November 15, 2022 at 1:36 am #236198TrueScotsmanBlocked“This is the case with the conspiraloons.”
As I believe the Earth an oblate spheroid I’m not sure what any of your screed has to do with me. Just so that I can poke fun at you; remind me which “conspiracy theories” I am being accused of subscribing to?
November 15, 2022 at 2:00 am #236200TrueScotsmanBlocked“Too lazy to go back into past messages but I recall TS saying that Wagner does not recruit murderers from the jails and that the reference to summary executions for refusing orders was in jest.
A dogs death for a dog”
Lol, BBC? Hardly a reliable source of information. The alleged victim was walking around Kiev freely. Erm, the Russians don’t control Kiev All-in with the British establishment. Sounds like some Nazis got to him.
What evidence do we have he was a convicted murderer and that he was offered a pardon? Zero. What evidence he was killed by the Russian military? Zero.
All-in, you credulous running dog, as long as you get a scratch on your belly after you’ll believe any piffle your good master spouts.
The Wagner Group has said publicly it does not accept those convicted of murder. The RF does not have the death penalty. All-in is a useful idiot of the state who spreads its propaganda with gay abandon. Some “socialist”.
November 15, 2022 at 2:04 am #236201TrueScotsmanBlocked“Yes Bijou. Another aspect of the loon is to reject someone’s entire corpus of work on the basis of one thing they don’t like. Conversely, once in thrall to conspiralunacy, they then embrace every other conspiracy “theory” they hear about.”
I see, I’m a “loon” for holding ideas contrary to your own? I’m mentally deficient? Diseased perhaps? So what then happens to me in your socialist shangri-la? You gonna medicate me? Give me a padded cell for my own protection? Lol, you’re a bunch of clowns.
November 15, 2022 at 2:10 am #236202TrueScotsmanBlocked“Many news outlets are reporting critical comments from the Chinese about Putin and the Russian conduct of the war. Seems like True Narcissist’s “anti imperialist coalition” of Russia and China is coming apart a little as the Chinese state and Biden start to cosying up to each other (all in the best interests of profit).
Obviously as TN will no doubt confirm, it’s all fake news and inspired by the CIA, etc. etc. etc.”
Since you’ve provided no evidence for your claims how am I to interrogate them? But if, as you say, they emanate from western MSM then they are without doubt 100% fake.
“Good job we have TN to keep us informed about the true course of Socialist progress, otherwise we might start to think that the Chinese “Communist” Party was an elite grouping who were only interested in the accumulation of capital and the exploitation of surplus value.”
Yes, and you’ll no doubt continue to believe in unicorns and fairy-tales because socialism lives in your head and nowhere else.
November 15, 2022 at 2:18 am #236203alanjjohnstoneKeymaster“O foolish and senseless people, who have eyes, but see not, who have ears, but hear not.” Isaiah 6:9-10
November 15, 2022 at 2:56 am #236205TrueScotsmanBlocked“O foolish and senseless people, who have eyes, but see not, who have ears, but hear not.” Isaiah 6:9-10”
Now All-in with the church is quoting from the superstitious scribblings of stone-age desert dwellers. For what purpose? Who bloody knows?! Lol
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