Russian Tensions
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The Russian capitalists are after the 12 trillions worth of natural resources that the territory of Ukraine has which is very important for the modern industry. The anti nazi campaign is only a smoke screen like the USA campaign on terrorism
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/10/ukraine-russia-energy-mineral-wealth/
Probably it has more natural resources than the Orinoco basin
“And Ukraine will be forced into unconditional surrender.”
After Russia’s loss of Kherson to the Ukrainian military these last few days, hot on the heels of losses they have incurred elsewhere in Ukraine, you have to worry about TS’s state of mind to come out with delusional stuff like this.
Russia’s invasion looks more likely to peter out with it holding on more or less to the territory it has now or perhaps a little less followed by the de facto partitioning of Ukraine. Hopefully this stupid and utterly pointless capitalist conflict – pointless from the point of view of both Russian and Ukrainian workers – will soon come to end
And remind me how losing WW2 influenced even more Germans into embracing Nazi ideology? Oh that’s right, it didn’t.
________________________________________________There is a big difference. Nazi Germany invaded Russia. This time around it was Russia that invaded Ukraine. From the point of someone adhering to a nationalist ideology that matters. This is why an invading army finds it so much more difficult to hold on to another country than to conquer it. Not only was the Russian invasion force too small to conquer Ukraine but from the standpoint of maintaining control over the territory the size of the invasion force was even less adequate. Under Russian control, Ukrainian fascism would have likely grown in strength
The European countries that were part of the Soviet empire almost immediately revealed, after 1989, that they have the most neo-Nazis and are more nationalistic than the rest of Europe. The hatred for Russia is stronger there than anywhere else.
“It lasted just over a month.”
Factcheck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_(1979%E2%80%931991)
No doubt to protect your ignorance you will claim it is all CIA-WIKI imagination.
Regards the Kymer Rouge, China aligned itself with the US and UK in support the Kymer Rouge.
It is a very confusing period for someone who claims to be both pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese to witness the rivalry between them and the tensions that existed that often neared open war, particularly since it involved China collaborating with the USA against the USSR.
FYI
https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/bitstream/handle/10822/709161/Brothers%20Thesis.pdf
“Once Russia’s offensives kick off Ukrainian troops will be slaughtered in appalling numbers. No need to filter out the dead.”
I found this comment resonates with similar bloodthirsty remarks throughout history
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.”
“Kill them. The Lord knows those that are his own”.Without understanding the full ramifications of his own logic, TS is advocating a genocidal war.
He does not differentiate between nationalists and Nazis (as seen by his failure to comprehend my earlier statement, “The vast majority of the Ukrainian military are not in politically extremist regiments” No, they’re not. Just as most German soldiers weren’t in SS units. What’s your point?)What is the Azov Battalion. War always needs it villains
A study of the Ukrainian Far-right
Pro-Putin Nazis
Can Russia win decisively? Who knows?
But if they do it could come at an immense cost in their own lives as much as Ukrainian ones.
In an all-out offensive to occupy Ukraine, has TS considered that Russian cities can become a target? Tit-for-Tat.
Long-range missiles are being provided to Ukraine by its allies on the strict stipulation that they are not used against Russia itself, only on the occupying attacking army. I have no idea what happens if that condition is lifted and those engaged in a proxy war supply more missiles capable of hitting Russian cities
Learn from other invaders.
The US easily accomplished the defeat of the Iraqi army but occupying the country and subduing an unwilling population was a very different matter.
China based on the Three World Theory formulated by Mao Tse Tung, and Mao Tse Tung thought provided support to the most reactionary and criminal government of Latin American which was presided by Augusto Pinochet in Chile, and they offered armaments for his government, and that action created an enormous division among the Maoism movement and Albania took a big chunk of the followers of Mao Tse Tung. It was a government that killed more than 30 thousands human beings and created an enormous amount of exiles to Europe and Canada. The analysis was that the Chilean government was against the soviet social imperialism
TS is in total denial when the evidence is even when it is in front of his face.
The Wagner mercenaries.
Who was Wagner? Why is it named after him?
Was it because Wagner composed pretty tunes?
Or because what Wagner came to stand for?
If tattoos are the criteria for if you are a nazi or not Wagner’s commander Utkin has SS insignia, the Nazi eagle and a Swastika tattoos.
And what of Rusich?
One of its leader said, “I’m not going to go deep and say, I’m a nationalist, a patriot, an imperialist, and so forth. I’ll say it outright: I’m a Nazi.”
He could have added sick-minded sadist to the list.
Another leader linked to the “Soldiers of Odin” neo-nazis
If Putin wished to de-nazify he has not far to look to make a start.
“Now our True Stalinist”
Robotomy, you know calling me a Stalinist isn’t insulting, right? It’s a badge of honor.
“is beginning to inadvertently reveal the real capitalist motivations behind his master’s imperialistic ambitions”
Erm no, correlation is not causation. The Soviet Union also grew after WW2, but, like with Russia today, it was a conflict forced upon it by others. Putin didn’t want this conflict and did everything possible to avoid it. The people of the territories taken quite rightly didn’t want to be ruled by Nazis. They wanted, instead, to join Russia and voted to do so.
“– it is about gaining “huge swathes of territory and the resources and populations therein”.”
Correlation is not causation. If the Russian speaking population inhabited barren, worthless desert the result would be the same.
“So all that talk about wanting to “de-nazify” Ukraine was a load of bollocks.”
It’s never only been about de-nazification. It’s also about demilitarization, ending Kiev’s vicious slaughter of the people of Donbas and security agreements guaranteeing no NATOstani (US) infrastructure on Russia’s border.
“Just so much hot air that gullible fools can faithfully regurgitate on demand.”
Lol, says the Guardian Brah. Priceless.
““It must be true cos Putin said it” LOL.”
Putin tells the truth far more often than any NATOstani leader, that’s for sure.
“Putin has no problem with the idea of some autocratic rightwing corrupt regime existing on his doorstep.”
He was able to tolerate that very thing until the Nazis in Kiev determined to resolve their conflict in the east using military violence. Kiev, and its NATO handlers are solely responsible for what followed.
“After all, he heads one himself.”
Putin is not an autocrat, he’s elected. If he was unpopular he’d be voted out of office. The Russian people don’t do so because he enjoys huge popular support. Under his leadership the looting of Russia was halted and its sovereignty restored.
“I still want to know from TS, however, how he imagines you can possibly hope to “de-nazify” a country – assuming Ukraine was a Nazi country – by firing missiles at it and whipping up its citizens into a state of reactionary ultra-nationalism in defense of their so-called homeland”
What happened in Nazi Germany? And Russia is going softer on Ukraine than the Soviets ever did on Germany. Soon the Ukrainians will be militarily exhausted. 370,000 Russian reserves are about to join the fight. If the megalomaniacs in NATOstan have any humanity they’ll allow Kiev to sue for peace. But that’s a big “if”.
“Mr Putin is the best recruiting sergeant for the cause of the small Ukrainian Nazi movement they could ever have hoped for.”
That’s perfectly OK. As a result more Nazis will die. It’s a win-win.
According to their definition of Nazism, which is not the correct one, the real Nazis are inside of Rusia, it is like the anti imperialists looking for enemies outside when the real enemies are inside
““It lasted just over a month.”
Factcheck”
Lol, CIApedia.
“The conflict lasted for nearly a month, from February 17 to March 1979.”
https://www.thevietnamese.org/2022/02/february-17-1979-the-start-of-the-sino-vietnamese-border-war/
“No doubt to protect your ignorance you will claim it is all CIA-WIKI imagination.”
CIApedia is not a reliable source. I’ve provided mountains of evidence to support this conclusion. You have refuted none of it. The only one of us protecting their ignorance is you.
“Regards the Kymer Rouge, China aligned itself with the US and UK in support the Kymer Rouge.
Who Supported the Khmer Rouge?”
You’ve just explained who.
“It is a very confusing period for someone who claims to be both pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese to witness the rivalry between them and the tensions that existed that often neared open war”
What’s your point?
“particularly since it involved China collaborating with the USA against the USSR.”
If Stalin had remained alive perhaps such a deterioration in relations could’ve been avoided. We’ll never know.
“Without understanding the full ramifications of his own logic, TS is advocating a genocidal war.”
Lol, find me a definition of genocide that includes the killing of enemy combatants.
“He does not differentiate between nationalists and Nazis (as seen by his failure to comprehend my earlier statement, “The vast majority of the Ukrainian military are not in politically extremist regiments””
If you are an armed combatant in an armed conflict you are a legitimate target. End of story.
“What is the Azov Battalion. War always needs it villains
Ukraine’s Azov Battalion: Neo-Nazis or Russian Propaganda?
A study of the Ukrainian Far-right”
Lol, I have to call you All-in with the Nazis now? All-in with whitewashing Ukrainian neo-Nazism.
“Pro-Putin Nazis
Lol, the Conversation. Yet another imperialist rag. Do better All-in with the Nazis.
“Can Russia win decisively? Who knows?”
I know.
“But if they do it could come at an immense cost in their own lives as much as Ukrainian ones.”
Russians are killing Ukrainians 8 to 1. The immense cost is on Ukraine’s side not Russia’s. Russia is only growing in strength thanks to this conflict as I’ve explained earlier.
“In an all-out offensive to occupy Ukraine, has TS considered that Russian cities can become a target? Tit-for-Tat.”
Lol,they already are targets. Donbas is Russia now.
“Long-range missiles are being provided to Ukraine by its allies on the strict stipulation that they are not used against Russia itself, only on the occupying attacking army. I have no idea what happens if that condition is lifted and those engaged in a proxy war supply more missiles capable of hitting Russian cities”
You’ve no idea? Then let me help you. Russia destroys them in the air or on the ground along with their crews. Problem solved. Then US troops would probably be targeted somewhere, perhaps Syria, and we can have WW3.
“The US easily accomplished the defeat of the Iraqi army but occupying the country and subduing an unwilling population was a very different matter.”
Apples and oranges. Russians and Ukrainians are brother Slavs, speak the same language and have a similar culture. Once Russia has evicted the Nazis from Kiev it will leave. Your analogy is stupid.
Is your reference confirming or refuting what I said?
“The battleground of Vi Xuyen District in the northern Ha Giang Province was the most critical and violent front during the intermittent fighting between the two Communist countries from 1979 to 1989″
“It is a very confusing period for someone who claims to be both pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese to witness the rivalry between them and the tensions that existed that often neared open war” What’s your point?”
In relation to the conflict which do you sympathise with? Russia in support of Vietnam or China in support of Khymer Rouge.
Two actually existing socialist countries, both expressing imperialistic policies and you don’t recognise the paradox…
“Is your reference confirming or refuting what I said?”
The war lasted a month. Intermittent skirmishing is not war.
“In relation to the conflict which do you sympathise with? Russia in support of Vietnam or China in support of Khymer Rouge.”
I haven’t studied the period in detail enough to form an opinion.
“Two actually existing socialist countries, both expressing imperialistic policies and you don’t recognise the paradox…”
Neither countries were or are imperialist so I reject the framing of your question.
“The European countries that were part of the Soviet empire almost immediately revealed, after 1989, that they have the most neo-Nazis and are more nationalistic than the rest of Europe.”
And they were like that preceding WW2. For the Soviet Union these countries were a burden not booty. The Soviet Union was the best thing that could’ve happened to them.
“The hatred for Russia is stronger there than anywhere else.”
Not because of anything Russia did. The Soviet Union massively improved the quality of life of those it ruled.
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