Russian Tensions
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“The basic rule with regards to TS is that if the citation supports him it is authentic, unbiased and correct, if it does’nt support him it is biased, written by the CIA, inauthentic and right wing.”
Erm, no. I support the truth. All my assertions re the agency, or anything else for that matter, are supported with copious evidence.
Bojo’s Brain, I suppose you think the billions spent on the CIA’s budget only goes to buying office supplies? Can you actually be that dim? Is it possible?
“I think he has at least 5 of the following characteristics”
Lol, where’d you learn psychology, in a tween fashion magazine? Spare us the pablum. Bojo’s Brain, you’re not a serious person.
“Don’t let the egg on your face deter you”
Robotomy, there’s no egg on my face you credulous dupe. Ukraine is losing decisively, and even a smooth brained Guardian Brah such as yourself will soon have to face the truth. I look forward to rubbing your nose in it.
Robotomy, there’s no egg on my face you credulous dupe. Ukraine is losing decisively, and even a smooth brained Guardian Brah such as yourself will soon have to face the truth. I look forward to rubbing your nose in it.
_______________________________________________________It doesn’t look like that at the moment does it, True Stalinist? How do you interpret the Ukrainian capture of Kherson as “Ukraine losing decisively”? Or the Ukrainian advances up in the North for that matter? I appreciate you live in a kind of Alice in Wonderland bubble where lies morph into truths and vice versa, but come on old chap – this is stretching matters a wee bit too far, don’t you think?
Still, I would be fascinated to hear your explanation as to why you think the Ukrainians capturing Kherson is clear proof that they are “decisively losing the war”. You are an endless source of amusement so continue keeping us all amused. Perhaps you imagine you are a brilliant military strategist and that this is just some kind of clever military ruse that we lesser mortals are quite unable to grasp. We shall see.
And no you won’t ever have the pleasure of ever rubbing my nose in it when the outcome of this stupid war is settled. Unlike you, I am a socialist and support neither side. Whichever authoritarian capitalist regime wins this war, Russian and Ukrainian workers will have lost
“Bojo’s Brain keep your skat fantasies to yourself.”
Oh, so no explanation from you as to why you think the Ukrainian capture of Kherson is a striking example of how the Ukrainian regime is “decisively losing the war”. I am disappointed TS. I was so looking forward to yet another of your rambling incoherent attempts to square the circle
https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html
Russia propaganda news center and budget, Is there any difference between the CIA and KGB propaganda ? Both are the same
All capitalists blocs have their own news center and Radio Habana Cuba was the mouthpiece of Russia in Latin America, and Russia Today took the place of Moscow Radio, and CIA had for Latin America: La Voz de Las Americas, competing with the Russian propaganda
They can only fool the fools
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BIJOU DRAIN, I deleted a post from you that I felt was unnecessarily insulting”
Fair play, ref.
Robbo, i think we should stay well away from one side’s claim of victory, even for one battle for one city.
We are no military strategists.
In all wars, speedy triumph is predicted by generals and politicians. Rarely does “Home by Christmas” comes true.
Even when it appears so as in the relatively fast defeat of Iraq army in 2003, the resistance of the civil population was unexpected and the war took on a different phase.
The failure for whatever the reason of Russia to capture Kiev was a key moment.
There were serious peace talks at the start of the war that were not followed up upon and I would suggest it was because of US/UK were seeking a proxy war against Russia to weaken it plus an optimism within Russian circles that a military solution remained a possibility
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_peace_negotiations
What is significant with Kherson that it had been declared now part of Russia. The Motherland will be invaded and occupied by a “foreign” force. That is a propaganda defeat from the perspective of Russia’s public even if on the long term – and unlike TS I do anticipate a long war – Russia will prevail.
I have no idea if the real casualty rate is as high as Milley’s estimate is 100,000 for each side and 40,000 civilian, as well as 15-30 million refugees and IDPs.
Neither side is presenting accurate figures.Of the recent call-up of 300,000 it was expected that they would replaces existing garrison and reserve forces around Russia to permit the reinforcement of the front lines with more combat prepared experienced better equipped troops. However 50,000 of those mobilised have been sent directly to Ukraine.
Any winner would be a victory for the capitalist class , and a defeat for the working class. Anyone of those left-wingers who are supporting any gangsters of the capitalist class are supporters of capitalism, under the so called Leninist slogans of the self determination of the peoples, the national liberation, or the anti imperialism. At the Socialist Party/WSM we have never taken sides with any gangsters, or bandits of the capitalist class
“Oh, so no explanation from you as to why you think the Ukrainian capture of Kherson is a striking example of how the Ukrainian regime is “decisively losing the war”.”
Robotomy, I try to avoid commenting on the war until I’ve listened to analysis from those with military expertise or who have analysed what such people say. And, having done so, it seems clear that this was an orderly Russian retreat with no loss of life. Therefore, merely a tactical setback in one section of a hugely sprawling battlefield. The Russians have had plenty of them but the overall picture has always remained the same. They’re winning decisively.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/the-pullout-from-kherson.html#comments
“I don’t think the DSM-5 is often used as a basis for fashion magazine articles.
But the arrogant dismissal of other’s concerns IS another common symptom, you might want to read up on it.”
Come on, it was either Tween Vogue or Girls’ Life. Which was it?
“And no you won’t ever have the pleasure of ever rubbing my nose in it when the outcome of this stupid war is settled. Unlike you, I am a socialist and support neither side.”
I’ll enjoy rubbing your nose in it for the simple satisfaction of me being better informed than you and therefore right. If you’re wrong about this, and you are and will be proven to be, what else are you wrong about? You see where this leads?
TS is such a throwback to the ’70s and ’80s – an equal mixture of ignorance and arrogance. He’s the kind of egotistical vanguardist that put a whole generation of the working class off politics. Such anger and intolerance is always a sign of insecurity. Thankfully his breed are dying out but it’s good to be reminded of how correct we were in opposing everything he stands for. As I’ve said, the main point of discussing anything with him is to confirm to any reader of this forum the reasons why we oppose the left. I must admit to laughing out loud at his contention of his knowledge of ‘the truth’. Anyway I’m done with this parody of an individual but I’ll leave him with a disconcerting thought – I’m just as surprised as he is that Russia seem to be losing this war!
“The failure for whatever the reason of Russia to capture Kiev was a key moment.”
You can not fail at something you never attempted All-in with the CIA. The Russian troops outside Kiev were there to pin down Ukrainian soldiers stationed there in order to prevent them reinforcing the east. The Kremlin subsequently withdrew them after the battlefield had been shaped and as a gesture of goodwill during peace negotiations.
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