Russian Tensions
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TS ““… providing space for all nations to pursue sovereignty and peaceful co-prosperity…”
Proof he has no idea what a nation-state is, what capitalism is, nor what socialism is.
The coup took place when the then president, Yanukovych, would not sign an agreement with the European Union.
Re-writing history
The first invasion was not 2022 but 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea.
I accept Crimea had more affinity with Russia but it cannot be overlooked that Russian troops took possession of Crimea in breach of international law.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-putin-crimea-idUSKBN0M51DG20150309
Hitler’s occupation of the Rhineland, Anschluss and the Saar were all approved by inhabitants by referendums. Sudetenland overwhelming voted for the Nazis in Dec 1938
In regards to the separatist republics, Russian troops were sent in to bolster its defences. I fully expect you to reject such claims.
The expansion of NATO was a threat to Russia and it rightly demanded safeguards that Ukraine would not be accepted as a member. The responses were very fudged and NATO countries were divided. Which meant the unanimous admittance was not guaranteed.
Michael Hudson explains the monumental shift that is taking place geo-politically. He’s a Marxist so I’m sure you all hate him.
https://thesaker.is/germanys-position-in-americas-new-world-order/
“The Russian people overwhelmingly ditched Bolshevism:
Lol, 60+ and yet so ignorant?Actually, the exact opposite is true. The Russian people overwhelmingly supported Bolshevism. Of the 300 million people living in the USSR about 150 million people participated in the 1991 referendum asking whether or not to maintain the Union. 76% voted in favor of its preservation. That’s overwhelming Wez. Hope you choke on your apology for being so damn wrong.
“it’s time TS did as well – it was an historical dead-end.”
No it was betrayed.
“Incidentally in all my 60+ years I can truly say that I have never read the Guardian.”
Lol. Fine, you’re just Guardian adjacent.
“I accept Crimea had more affinity with Russia but it cannot be overlooked that Russian troops took possession of Crimea in breach of international law.”
Lol. Russian troops were already in Crimea as per the agreement to lease the naval base at Sevastopol.
Wez, do you extend this feeling to other species, with whom we are all related, or only to humanity?
To understand the concept of Imperialism it is appropriate to read and study Nikolai Bukharin and Rosa Luxembourg. Lenin concept of imperialism is not appropriate and it is a total distortion of the reality of the expansion of capitalism. Russia like any other capitalist country is imperialist or expansionist. Left-wingers and Leninists do not understand the concept of expansionism or imperialism
https://en.internationalism.org/wr/299/what-is-imperialism
TM – Such a question belongs on a different thread. I’m not a romantic when it comes to nature and there are probably species that we could do without (parasitic worms, certain viruses and bacteria etc.) but, as I say, that’s for another thread.
To return us on track
US officials have reportedly warned the Ukrainian government in private that it needs to signal an openness to negotiating with Russia. US officials told the paper that Ukraine’s position on negotiations with Russia is wearing thin among allies who are worried about the economic effects of a protracted war. “Ukraine fatigue is a real thing for some of our partners,” one US official said.
It is as what ALB said in earlier posts. National self-interest will eventually prevail over Ukraine’s
“No it was betrayed.’
TS – By whom?”By the Soviet leaders who rejected the result of the referendum and dissolved the USSR anyway. President Boris Yeltsin of Russia, President Kravchuk of Ukraine, and Chairman Shushkevich of Belarus. Mikhail Gorbachev must also take s great deal of the blame.
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“Actually, the exact opposite is true. The Russian people overwhelmingly supported Bolshevism. Of the 300 million people living in the USSR about 150 million people participated in the 1991 referendum asking whether or not to maintain the Union. 76% voted in favor of its preservation. That’s overwhelming Wez”
_______________________________________________________How does voting in favour of maintaining the soviet union translate into “supporting bolshevism”? These are two quite separate things. Actually, the old state capitalist “command economy” was already under assault from the 1960s onwards with the Liberman reforms etc It was the “revolution from above” carried out by sections of the red bourgeoisie that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. 75% of the modern Russian oligarchic class were originally well-placed and privileged members of the Soviet Union’s old state capitalist class
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“No it was betrayed.’
TS – By whom?”By the Soviet leaders who rejected the result of the referendum and dissolved the USSR anyway. President Boris Yeltsin of Russia, President Kravchuk of Ukraine, and Chairman Shushkevich of Belarus. Mikhail Gorbachev must also take s great deal of the blame.”
__________________________________________________________You support an authoritarian capitalist regime like Putin’s. This is what authoritarian capitalist regimes do to people who naively place their trust in leaders or swallow the BS nationalist arguments for going to war with other countries. They betray them
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