Russian Tensions
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October 30, 2022 at 2:30 pm #235226AnonymousInactive
Some have removed components of Leninism and they have kept the so called positive aspects of Leninism and Bolshevism What is positive on Bolshevism? If they remove the vanguard party and they keep the permanent revolution , are they revolutionaries? both are anti marxist and anti socialists conceptions Any aspects of leftism are anti socialists
October 30, 2022 at 10:03 pm #235294AnonymousInactiveThe SPGB/WSM is an university on world socialism. We have had many teachers coming to this forum, pretending to give lectures and then at the end they become students or pupils on socialism. The best choice is to come to this place with an open mind and a notebook. We had a lecturer that called us Champagne socialists because we did not support Joe Biden presidential election, and history has proven that we were correct, as well, history has proven( just to mention a few events ) that we were correct in our stands regarding Bolshevism, Leninism, the Russian coup, WW1, WW2, the patriotic war of the Soviet Union, the Korean War, the Vietnam war, Iraq war, etc. etc. etc.
October 31, 2022 at 2:04 am #235306TrueScotsmanBlockedThe EU is now a party to the war in Ukraine.
October 31, 2022 at 2:07 am #235308TrueScotsmanBlocked“An example is Eugene Debs, a presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America in several elections.
Yet it was only at the end of his political career that he held an executive position within his Party.”
ie, became a leader. Lol
October 31, 2022 at 5:24 am #235310AnonymousInactiveOctober 31, 2022 at 5:41 am #235312TrueScotsmanBlocked“An example is Eugene Debs, a presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America in several elections.
Yet it was only at the end of his political career that he held an executive position within his Party.”
ie, became a leader. He ran for president for God’s sake. Lol
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October 31, 2022 at 5:43 am #235314TrueScotsmanBlockedThis will spell the end of the world. If it happens better quit your job and spend all your money quicksmart. Neither will be of use any longer.
https://www.newsweek.com/finland-will-allow-nato-place-nuclear-weapons-border-russia-1754925
October 31, 2022 at 7:41 am #235317robbo203ParticipantThis will spell the end of the world. If it happens better quit your job and spend all your money quicksmart. Neither will be of use any longer.
https://www.newsweek.com/finland-will-allow-nato-place-nuclear-weapons-border-russia-1754925
_____________________________It takes two to tango. Of course, the provocative actions of NATO and its expansionist policies are part of the reason why the world is in the perilous state it is but equally, if a nuclear war happens as a result of NATO placing nuclear weapons in Finland, the abhorrent capitalist regime in Russia would also be responsible. There is always a choice – even in the face of NATO expansion. There is no law of the universe that says you have to insanely press that nuclear button and destroy humanity.
It’s because the Russian regime just like the appalling regimes that constitute the Nato alliance are all driven by the sick fantasy called nationalism. They all think there is something called their “nation-state” that is worth hanging on to and defending. TS, and millions of workers like him, with his own attachment to this toxic mental disease called nationalism, is part of the problem, not the solution
October 31, 2022 at 10:05 am #235322WezParticipantTM – the left were never progressive to me but I sometimes get the impression that comrades think that they were/are more sympathetic and thus susceptible to our case than the right.
October 31, 2022 at 10:33 am #235323TrueScotsmanBlocked“There is always a choice – even in the face of NATO expansion. There is no law of the universe that says you have to insanely press that nuclear button and destroy humanity.”
Sure, if someone puts a gun to your head you can always cower on your knees and wait to be shot. I’ve no doubt that’s the craven path you’d tread. But don’t tisk, tisk those who choose to go down fighting instead.
“It’s because the Russian regime just like the appalling regimes that constitute the Nato alliance are all driven by the sick fantasy called nationalism.”
No, Russia is driven by self preservation. Nukes in the hands of madmen but minutes away from your largest cities is an existential crisis.
“They all think there is something called their “nation-state” that is worth hanging on to and defending.”
Ask the Somali’s what it’s like living without a nation state.
“TS, and millions of workers like him, with his own attachment to this toxic mental disease called nationalism, is part of the problem, not the solution”
When you’ve a better method of defending one’s self from imperialist aggression let me know. I’m all ears.
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October 31, 2022 at 10:45 am #235328TrueScotsmanBlocked“TM – the left were never progressive to me but I sometimes get the impression that comrades think that they were/are more sympathetic and thus susceptible to our case than the right.”
Lol. You have no case. That’s why there’re only seven of you. At some point surely it has to start sinking that maybe your ideas are quite simply…shit.
October 31, 2022 at 11:11 am #235331Bijou DrainsParticipantI don’t know if anyone else has noticed that TS never appears to make any contributions during the weekends and that his contributions seem to only occur during working times during MSK (Moscow Standard Time). If I was a cynic (which fortunately I am not) I might link these facts and come to conclusions which could explain TS’s strange contributions.
October 31, 2022 at 11:23 am #235333alanjjohnstoneKeymasterSomalia, Somaliland, Puntland, Jubaland
Some may see the multitude of states as the problem.
The Brexiteer campaign was to reclaim national sovereignty and abrogate international agreements.
Does it matter if Scotland or Catalonia declares independence? A new Passport? A new currency?
The Irish fought a bloody war for “freedom” from a United Kingdom and are now content with European Union.
October 31, 2022 at 11:32 am #235335Thomas_MoreParticipantWez, far from being sympathetic to us, it’s the Left who are responsible for damaging the word SOCIALISM so much that it’s well-nigh unusable.
Think how easier life would be if we didn’t always have to begin with saying what we are NOT, and could just say straight-off what we ARE. But as soon as “Socialism” is mentioned, we’re fighting a rearguard action.October 31, 2022 at 11:37 am #235336Thomas_MoreParticipantYes, Robbo. TS identifies with states, not with people!
“This will spell the end of the world. If it happens better quit your job and spend all your money quicksmart. Neither will be of use any longer.”
And this shows he even relishes the thought!
And following his nationalist ‘logic’, we should all be gung-ho for “our” flags and govts too! Otherwise, we’re “cowards.”
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