Russian Tensions
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October 28, 2022 at 12:48 am #235092TrueScotsmanBlocked
“According to some estimates, Robert Mugabe has about £1bn-worth of assets…”
The Guardian? Lol. Socialist Posers Guardian Bros of the world unite and do your part in spreading bourgeois imperialist propaganda. Knobbo, you know all MSM has that beat covered, right? SPGB, champions of ruling class dogma, hurrah!
October 28, 2022 at 12:52 am #235093TrueScotsmanBlocked“Mugabe the man mainly responsibe for the Gukurahundi genocide. The International Association of Genocide Scholars estimated that 20,000 individuals lost their lives during this.”
Lol. And there’s a genocide going on in Xinjiang China too, right? Only, no bodies, no evidence, just the mewlings of Wahabist/Christian/anti-communist fanatics. Which are you Bojo’s Brain? Don’t answer that, I already know.
October 28, 2022 at 12:58 am #235094TrueScotsmanBlocked“In fact, the similarity between Hitler’s Nazism and the Nazism of Stalin, Mao, Kim, etc. is UNCANNY!”
Oh dear, time to hand out another participation trophy. Give me a break guys, I have a family to feed, why are you making me waste my money so? This award goes to the special boy who only today almost learned to tie his shoe laces. A few more years and I know you’ll get there. Congratulations! Communists are Nazis! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
October 28, 2022 at 1:41 am #235095AnonymousInactiveEven Lenin was not a communist
The dictatorship of one party was one of the components of fascism and Lenin supported that concept and most anti fascists too
Most stalinists do not know that Lenin supported Trotsky theory of the permanent revolution, both combined constituted the essence of bolshevism and leninism
Two anti Marxist conceptions
October 28, 2022 at 4:04 am #235098TrueScotsmanBlocked“He needs a “colonial-oscopy”!”
Your contempt for the anticolinial struggle reveals your true reactionary colors. If this group isn’t an MI6 psyop it bloody well should be.
October 28, 2022 at 4:41 am #235099Bijou DrainsParticipantSo I take it spelling is not your strong suit, is it, DS?
DS now rushes off to correct his spelling💩💩
October 28, 2022 at 5:00 am #235100AnonymousInactiveIf land reform is a great accomplishment Emiliano Zapata was also a great ” socialist”, he was the head of the Plan of Ayala, and he was known as a Robin Hood who took land from the rich landowners to give it to the peasants
It was the same ideas proposed by the capitalist economists known as Henry George, and the so-called anarchist Proudhon, it is agrarian reforms for third world countries that will never conduct the workers toward socialism, like the communes and the coop
After the peasants received land, they became exploiters of other peasants because the plan was carried out within a capitalist society and the only way to carry the plan was by exploiting other workers to produce profits like the old landowners.
At present, Mexican peasants are in the same or worst conditions and they are forced to emigrate to the USA with the creation of the cartels the big agriculture producer have destroyed the small producer, it is a clear indication of the futility of capitalist reforms supported by the lefties
Zapata’s plan had more accomplishments than the Bolshevik’s land reform which never obtained any land as promised under their slogan
A dictator known as Joaquin Balaguer also created an agrarian reform to earn the votes of the peasants and the communist party supported his plan
The same process took place in Cuba, Venezuela, and Bolivia, lands had to be run as capitalist enterprises to produce profits and continue their operations, and in the case of Venezuela, they had to import everything including food, in the other side Chavez and Fidel Castro became rich peoples, the estimated net worth of Chavez and his family is about one billion dollars, and the peasants continue being poor
Most of the guerrilla fighters in Latin Americas who advocated for land reforms and anti-Neo colonialism were involved in drug trafficking, and two of them became presidents of Brazil and Colombia and both collaborated with the ruling class of both countries, even more, the president of Colombian said that he was going to develop capitalism and that communism was not needed in Colombia, and most of those groups also killed thousands of peasants
In the Panama paper (like Putin’s investments) there were several people close to the Hugo Chavez family who had large investments in banks, as well in the Panama papers there were a couple of women related to Putin who also had large bank investments and Swiss accounts.
Gaddafi also had a net worth of more than 200 billion dollars, and he was close to Jeff Bezos and Musk, Musk’s himself said that the only one who has more money than him is Putin, and he was a colonel of the KGB controlled by gangsters, and all those gangsters became part of the Russian capitalist class, and they are part of the organized crime in Latin America, and they have investment using straw man in banks, real estate, tourism. hotels, money laundering, drugs, and mining.
The so-called land reform ( Mision Zamora ) made in Venezuela took place by authorizing peoples and military to take lands and houses from other peoples under the plan poor vs rich. That type of action create a violent situation and several criminal groups were promoted. Now those groups are part of the organized crime that has spread thru South America ( Tren de Aragua ) by the meantime the government officials were getting rich and richer, and they were also involved in drug trafficking.
Lefties always need heroes, and then those heroes become part of the ruling class, then they get disappointed and grab another hero, and the eternal cycle continues all the time, from failure into failures
I do not know how Gaddafi can be a hero when he ordered a terrorist attack against an airplane carrying 270 innocents peoples, he was a terrorist like the same ones that overthrew him, the real one who had a weapon of mass destruction was Libya was not Iraq and he made an agreement with the capitalist powers to surrender the weapons
October 28, 2022 at 6:13 am #235103robbo203ParticipantTS: “Your contempt for the anticolinial struggle reveals your true reactionary colors. If this group isn’t an MI6 psyop it bloody well should be”
On the contrary, your contempt for socialist opposition to such bourgeois constructs as so-called “national liberation movements” reveals just how thoroughly reactionary and conservative you truly are. All of these movements without exception have ended up fully embracing capitalism. Some of them ended up even worse than their erstwhile colonial masters (with whom many of them continued to do business) in their degree of corruption, and repression of the local workers and peasants.
For an antisocialist supporter of the disgusting imperialist capitalist regime of Putin, you have some nerve for criticizing others for not endorsing your cherished bourgeois notion of anti-colonial struggle when your very own beloved hero is at this very moment exemplifying his commitment to colonialism by annexing new territories with the intention of expanding “mother Russia”
October 28, 2022 at 6:23 am #235104robbo203ParticipantTS: “According to some estimates, Robert Mugabe has about £1bn-worth of assets…”
The Guardian? Lol. Socialist Posers Guardian Bros of the world unite and do your part in spreading bourgeois imperialist propaganda.”
————————————————————————I am curious. How is it ..er… “bourgeois imperialist propaganda” to point out that someone like Mugabe ended up a very rich individual? Are you saying this is untrue in which case do you have some evidence to substantiate your claim??? Just because the source of the information was the Guardian doesn’t necessarily make it untrue, does it now?
You have a constant tendency to mock the referenced claims of others without providing any evidence whatsoever to demonstrate that these claims are false. You expect others to believe you just because it is your opinion? LOL TS
October 28, 2022 at 6:54 am #235105AnonymousInactivehttps://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/01HARARE2547_a.html. Wikileaks on Mugabe
https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/573aeac75632a39742ed39a0/. Gaddafi, Panama Papers
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/18/panama-papers-tightened-the-noose-on-offshore-assets-of-maduros-inner-circle. Venezuela government officials Panama Papers
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/panama-papers-money-hidden-offshore. Putin and inner circles on Panama PapersOctober 28, 2022 at 8:15 am #235109TrueScotsmanBlockedThe extent of Mugabe’s assets “unknown”, “rumored”, hardly convincing. The Panama papers were a CIA op.
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/12/swiss-banker-whistleblower-cia-behind-panama-papers.html
October 28, 2022 at 8:37 am #235110TrueScotsmanBlocked“You have a constant tendency to mock the referenced claims of others without providing any evidence whatsoever to demonstrate that these claims are false. You expect others to believe you just because it is your opinion?”
You lie. I constantly provide evidence supporting my claims.
The Guardian is a mouth piece of the British establishment. It is as trustworthy as a used car salesman running a Ponzi scheme. The fact you credulously quote from it is a sign of just how politically unsophisticated you are. Guardian Bros, lol.
October 28, 2022 at 9:06 am #235112TrueScotsmanBlocked“So I take it spelling is not your strong suit, is it, DS?”
What an own! I feel mortally wounded. What can I say, guess I have fat fingers. L.
October 28, 2022 at 9:43 am #235113AnonymousInactivehttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/04/05/pana-a05.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/10/05/gtko-o05.html
The Mugabe fortunes were published by WikiLeaks and the Pandora Papers
There are thousands of tax heaven paradises around the world, and banks where dictators and government officials ( from the right and left ) where they are hiding their money
October 28, 2022 at 9:52 am #235115TrueScotsmanBlocked“On the contrary, your contempt for socialist opposition to such bourgeois constructs as so-called “national liberation movements””
National liberation movements are bourgeois constructs? Lol. In an alternate universe maybe. All of Africa, all of Asia, the whole of the Americas? No place is pure enough to please you? What clowns you are. The only True Scotsmen. What a lonely, hateful, pathetic gaggle of misfits you are. A mutual masturbation society with no happy endings. Only scorn, derision and spite. You are a truly worthless nest of participation trophy winners.
“reveals just how thoroughly reactionary and conservative you truly are.”
Lol. Because anti-colonialism is reactionary don’t you know?!
“All of these movements without exception have ended up fully embracing capitalism.”
Complete fantasy. But it is true that there have been failures. Why? Because of US and European aggression and support of counter-revolutions, coups and murder. Read “Killing Hope” by William Blum to learn the full scale of the US’ counter revolutionary project since WW2. But you won’t be sympathetic to the struggles of real world socialists because you’re not interested in the real world only the fantasy one that exists in your head where there is no counter revolutionary violence and betrayal. Toddlers have a better understanding of the real
world than you lot.“Some of them ended up even worse than their erstwhile colonial masters (with whom many of them continued to do business) in their degree of corruption, and repression of the local workers and peasants.”
Which ones and why?
“For an antisocialist supporter of the disgusting imperialist capitalist regime of Putin”
Russia is not imperialist.
“you have some nerve for criticizing others for not endorsing your cherished bourgeois notion of anti-colonial struggle”
Lol. Serious question. How many people are in your “party”? I count about seven. There are 93 million in the CPC. Who’s winning the battle of ideas you or them? Your party has no followers because you’re hateful, infantile fanatics with absolutely no understanding of the real world. You will always be irrelevant. Thank god for that.
“when your very own beloved hero is at this very moment exemplifying his commitment to colonialism by annexing new territories with the intention of expanding “mother Russia”.
Putin did everything possible to avoid the conflict. Put simply, Kiev lost all right to rule over its Russian speaking minority when it attempted to ethnically cleanse them from the east. The population of the liberated regions happily voted to rejoin their historic motherland. Are you going to deny them agency and object? Well, they don’t give a shit because you’re a useless, brainwashed simp for your country’s ruling class. You are irrelevant and your views don’t matter a jot.
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