Russian Tensions
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I think you are probably right that the Republican politicians are just vote-catchers trying to use voters’ resentment at the government spending money for a war in a faraway land while they suffer from rising prices.
It does seem to be sign of the times that, while those calling themselves (falsely of course) socialists are rallying support for one or the other side in the Ukraine war invoking vague slogans like “anti-imperialism” and the “right to self-determination”, the opposition to the war is being expressed by isolationists and populists.
Another reason why reformists are worse than useless.
“Another reason why reformists are worse than useless.”
Maybe, but for the foreseeable future (foreseeable by us, that is) reformism is the only game in town. That fact is blindingly obvious – take a look around.
No, and I have some respect for pacifists who are not socialists, but no respect for pseudo-socialists who support wars.
Lizzie45 – ‘reformism is the only game in town’.
No it’s not – if it were then you would not have this forum on which to make such a statement. Even if it were ‘the only game in town’ the winning or losing of it would make no difference to the history of the outcome. It is only infantile impatience and self indulgence that fuels political reformism.The crazies in Natostan are considering a false flag dirty bomb attack to justify their entrance into the conflict. But really, both sides are just as bad. Lol
Red Line, Rat Line Part Deux In Ukraine–Will American Generals Put A Stop To Madness?
For those with very selective memories, regards the “dirty bomb”, I refer them to page 170 and message 233914 to see that the scare-mongering by Russia of the use of a dirty bomb by Ukraine has a very long pedigree.
The claim was reported as early as March 6
Keeping on saying the same thing does not make it true. However, tell a lie often enough and someone gullible will fall for it.
Is it at all credible that the Ukrainians would contaminate their territory and crops and people with radioactive fall-out, trashing their economy for decades to come?
It is taking the scorched earth strategy to an extreme
There are far easier false flag black ops that could be used to provoke the direct intervention of NATO and alienate Russia from sympathy than such an extreme self-inflicted wound with such deep ramifications.
“For those with very selective memories, regards the “dirty bomb”, I refer them to page 170 and message 233914 to see that the scare-mongering by Russia of the use of a dirty bomb by Ukraine has a very long pedigree.
The claim was reported as early as March 6”
And what would you call the countless deliberate acts of shelling of and attacks on nuclear power plants if not an attempt to set off a dirty bomb?
“Keeping on saying the same thing does not make it true. However, tell a lie often enough and someone gullible will fall for it.”
Are you denying that the Ukrainians shelled and attacked nuclear power plants under Russian control?
“Is it at all credible that the Ukrainians would contaminate their territory and crops and people with radioactive fall-out, trashing their economy for decades to come?”
Even the Americans have admitted that the Ukrainians are firing on the plants. The plants are in eastern Ukraine where the pro Russian now Russian population lives. The nazis in Kiev don’t care if the land there becomes radioactive.
“It is taking the scorched earth strategy to an extreme”
That’s nazis for you.
“There are far easier false flag black ops that could be used to provoke the direct intervention of NATO and alienate Russia from sympathy than such an extreme self-inflicted wound with such deep ramifications.”
Oh, yeah? Like what?
Who is risking a nuclear meltdown?
Although the Zaporizhzhia plant’s six reactors have been shut down, they need a constant supply of electricity to keep the nuclear fuel inside cool and prevent a meltdown.
The recent and very successful Russian offensive against Ukraine’s electric grid has often temporarily cut off its external power and forced it to rely on its emergency back-up diesel generators, with only several days of reserve fuel.
It was a loss of power that led to nuclear fuel overheating and the hydrogen gas this produced then exploded, releasing radioactive contamination at Fukushima in Japan in 2011.
The structure of nuclear power stations has been built to withstand direct attacks so shelling is not the primary threat.
Importantly, that is not to say targeting secondary buildings and spent-fuel rod storage would not result in serious knock-on consequences with radioactive leakage.
We condemn both sides who are willing to gamble on a nuclear catastrophe.
“I’m extremely concerned by the shelling yesterday at Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, which underlines the very real risk of a nuclear disaster,” Rafael Mariano Grossi, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said. “There are contradictions between the accounts of the Russian and Ukrainian sides,” Grossi said. “I receive information . . . but I have no way of determining whether it corresponds to the facts.”
As in all wars, both sides claim clean hands to escape responsibility. Both sides are culpable and guilty. And that is why we don’t choose one over the other.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/25/gsdz-o25.html?pk_campaign=newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws
Poverty skyrocket in Ukraine
“As in all wars, both sides claim clean hands to escape responsibility. Both sides are culpable and guilty. And that is why we don’t choose one over the other.”
What BS. The German Nazis say we’re not genociding the Jews. The Soviets say they are. Therefore both sides are culpable and guilty. What you smoking Allan?
“That’s nazis for you.”
The Ukrainian regime is an obnoxious authoritarian capitalist regime. But describing it as a nazi regime is unhelpful and inaccurate (despite the presence of a few Nazis there). It is just using the term “nazi” as a vague swearword.
By the same token, you might just as well call the obnoxious authoritarian capitalist regime in Russia a Nazi regime as well.
“The Ukrainian regime is an obnoxious authoritarian capitalist regime. But describing it as a nazi regime is unhelpful and inaccurate (despite the presence of a few Nazis there).”
A few? Lol. Fully a third, (100,000 men), of Ukraine’s military was made up of far-right extremists when Russia’s SMO began. The chief adviser to the armed forces and Kiev’s police chief are both nazis. The school books for Ukraine’s children are ethno-nationalist. The “father of the nation” after whom countless streets and parks are named was a full blown nazi. The nazis overthrew the last legitimately elected government. There are nazi death squads roaming across the nation killing anyone who opposes the war, calls for negotiating with the Russians or even accepts food aid from them. All opposition parties except far right ones are banned. The Ukraine has its own gestapo. There are Nuremburg style torchlit rallies. Barely a photograph of a Ukrainian soldier exists without a nazi tattoo or badge on their uniform.
The military rallies in Russia, China and North Korea look just as Scotsman describes. So they are Nazis too.
Scotsman sees justification for smashing and blighting the lives of thousands of people with warfare and high explosives by shouting “they are Nazis!”
All nationalists and militarists use WW2 as an excuse, and “Nazi” is a universal epithet for justifying state violence.
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