Russian Tensions
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September 29, 2022 at 8:32 pm #233887AnonymousInactive
I think NATO/USA/Ukraine is behind the sabotage. Russia invested billions of dollars in that pipeline, and the only one obtaining economic benefits from the sabotage is the USA. They have always wanted to sell their own gas to Europe at a higher price. They will not do it directly because it is a war provocation with Russia
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/29/hlqr-s29.html. This is the analysis made by a Trotskyist organization
September 29, 2022 at 11:41 pm #233895alanjjohnstoneKeymasterFinland is closing its border to Russian tourists – the last of Moscow’s EU neighbours to do so.
Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all closed their borders to Russian tourists earlier this month. A long-standing visa-free travel agreement with Russia was suspended by Norway last week.Surely, defection from Russia should be encouraged not hindered.
September 30, 2022 at 2:15 am #233898TrueScotsmanBlocked“Surely, defection from Russia should be encouraged not hindered.”
Interesting spin. Why shouldn’t defection from Natostan to Russia be encouraged? It sounds like you have a dog in this fight Alan. Funny how war brings out one’s true colors. You’re sounding an awful lot like a nationalist. Woe is me.
September 30, 2022 at 2:18 am #233899TrueScotsmanBlocked“TS has no working class consciousness, not even that of an old Bolshevik.
He is simply a Russian nationalist.”No, just an anti-imperialist.
September 30, 2022 at 2:25 am #233900TrueScotsmanBlockedMoscow is not threatening anyone with nukes, the US is.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/cuban-missile-crisis-20-over-ukraine-205077
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September 30, 2022 at 8:44 am #233907Lizzie45BlockedWell, he (the author of that piece) would say that, wouldn’t he?*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Antonov
*with acknowledgment to Mandy Rice-Davies.
September 30, 2022 at 9:11 am #233910WezParticipant‘No, just an anti-imperialist.’
TS – History shows us that all capitalist states are ‘imperialist’ when given the opportunity.September 30, 2022 at 9:21 am #233911alien1ParticipantSo, knowing the kind of shitstorm saying anything remotely realistic about the situation of US/NATO’s war on Russia engenders I invite you to listen to a real military/political analyst with genuine knowledge and understanding has to say. It’s short so it won’t tax anyone’s concentration span too much – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygo_5Pbp5Lc&t=122s
September 30, 2022 at 9:38 am #233912Thomas_MoreParticipantWeren’t the Khmer Rouge “anti-imperialist”?
September 30, 2022 at 11:20 am #233914alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI did watch his comments on the desperation of Zelensky contrasted to some of his military commanders who are with some of the Russian military trying to defuse the war. It doesn’t say whether either side had political backing.
However, I did also look at MacGregors credentials and noted that he may not be as objective as implied.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor
I also googled the dirty bomb claims. It would indeed create more radiation contamination than a battlefield nuke which we have already discussed earlier.
6 months ago the Hindustan Times cited unnamed Russian sources for the claim.
Its origins seem to be the pre-war propaganda that Ukraine may withdraw from the Budapest Memorandum and a statement from one of the Neo-Nazi groups that a dirty bomb could be built in a month.
September 30, 2022 at 11:45 am #233915alanjjohnstoneKeymasterIt was a strange affair.
The Kymer Rouge were removed from power by the invasion of the Vietnamese and established camps in Thailand where they were supported by Western nations including the USA and UK along with China.
September 30, 2022 at 12:02 pm #233916alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI think we have to acknowledge that there is a right-wing anti-war faction, an evolution of the isolationist tradition, the USA had always possessed.
From 2007 and well worth a read for understanding much of the ideology of certain Republicans such as Tucker Carlson.
September 30, 2022 at 2:10 pm #233917Thomas_MoreParticipantPutin’s paean to Imperial Russia is anti-imperialist? I think I hear Catherine the Great laughing.
September 30, 2022 at 2:44 pm #233918ALBKeymasterHere (for those able to get round the censorship) is Putin this afternoon playing the anti-western-imperialism card:
For those who can’t get to read his speech, here’s an extract on this point:
‘The West is ready to go to any length “to preserve the neocolonial system which allows it to live parasitically – and factually to pillage the world thanks to the power of the dollar and the technological dictate. To collect tribute from humanity,” Putin said.’
September 30, 2022 at 5:20 pm #233921alanjjohnstoneKeymasterUS in Europe re-shapes itself
https://www.dw.com/en/us-pentagon-planning-ukraine-command-in-germany-report/a-63297386
it would oversee the instruction of Ukrainian troops at training ranges in Germany in addition to coordinating technical support centers, such as those involved in repairing weapons provided by the US, in other countries, the report said.
The project is modeled on train-and-assist schemes instigated by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past two decades, — good luck with that then…
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