Russian Tensions
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Some Historical Background for an Economic Interpretation of the War in Ukraine
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Russia and Ukraine exist only in the socially conditioned imagination.
The home of all humans is the Earth, not bits of it but the whole PlanetIf we insert that idea in our brains all wars will end, nationalism and patriotism will be wiped out from the face of the earth
Russia will regard Ukraine’s attempts to retake Donbass and other territories as attacks on its lands, if the referendums held there produce positive results, according to Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov “Everything is very clear on this score,” he said. “If there is an act of accession to Russia, then, accordingly, the relevant provisions of our Constitution will take effect.”
NATO has the same principles, anybody that attack any member of NATO or take any of its territory is also attacking NATO, therefore what is the difference between both gangs ?
“NATO has the same principles, anybody that attack any member of NATO or take any of its territory is also attacking NATO, therefore what is the difference between both gangs ?”
The difference is glaringly obvious. One is a hostile military alliance the other a single state.
Both are the same military cartel created to defend the interest of two capitalist class, like the Warsaw Pact, One defend the interests of the European/USA capitalist class and the other one defend the interest of the Russian capitalist class. Any state small or large is imperialist and both are imperialist or expansionist. Rosa Luxembourg explained that many years ago
“…But, in good faith, is it not altogether an absurdity and an anachronism to make military considerations the principle by which the boundaries of nations are to be fixed?… If limits are to be fixed by military interests, there will be no end to claims, because every military line is necessarily faulty, and may be improved by annexing some more outlying territory; and, moreover, they can never be fixed finally and fairly, because they always must be imposed by the conqueror upon the conquered, and consequently carry within them the seed of fresh wars. Such is the lesson of all history…”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch02.htm
There is not one single state separated from the World economy , and there is not one good state and one bad state, all states are organs of oppressions and domination, and all states represent a ruling class, it is something clearly defined by Engels and Marx.
This is what a man known as Nikolai Bukharin said about world economy, and imperialism, a man that knew what socialism really ia and the most apt of the Bolsheviks
The struggle between “national” states, which is nothing but the struggle between the respective groups of’ the bourgeoisie, is not suspended in the air. One cannot picture this gigantic conflict as the conflict of two bodies in a vacuum. On the contrary, the very conflict is conditioned by the special medium in which the “national economic organisms” live and grow. The latter, however, have long ceased being a secluded whole, an “isolated economy” à la Fichte or Thünen. On the contrary, they are only parts of a much larger sphere, namely, world economy just as every individual enterprise is part of the “national” economy, so every one of these “national economies” is included in the system of world economy. This is why the struggle between modern “national economic bodies” must be regarded first of all as the struggle of various competing parts of world economy-just as we consider the struggle of individual enterprises to be one of the phenomena of socio-economic life. Thus the problem of studying imperialism, its economic characteristics, and its future, reduces itself to the problem of analysing the tendencies in the development of world economy, and of the probable changes in its inner structure. Before we approach this problem, however, we must, first of all, agree as to what we understand by the expression “world economy.”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1917/imperial/. Lenin learned from him. In order to be a socialist and a Marxist you must reject all kind of wars, and in order to be a marxist you must support the working class of all countries instead of their ruling class
Medvedev says strategic, that is, long-range nuclear missiles can be used if annexed regions attacked.
I don’t think Putin is a communist;
https://tass.com/politics/1512727
I wonder whose side the christians’ god is in.
Both Russia and the U.S. are influenced by armageddonist churches, on one side evangelicalism, on the other Orthodoxy. But only in the case of Russia are the armageddonists presently, in the form of Orthodoxy, part of the structure of government.
Modern Catholicism is not armageddonist, but Orthodoxy is – especially Slavic Orthodoxy. It might outwardly resemble more the Catholic Church (ostentatious ritual, incense etc.), but its ideology is closer to evangelical fundamentalism. The Orthodox Church is fundamentalist. Modern Catholicism is not.
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I don’t think Putin is a communist;https://tass.com/politics/1512727
I wonder whose side the christians’ god is in.
Neither Lenin and the Bolsheviks, but many so called communists support Putin, and they want Putin to rebuild the Soviet Union
During WW2 gods supported all sides including the Soviets
The Russian orthodox church supported Stalin and the so called patriotic war, and they asked the Vatican to support the Soviet Union and they rejected the proposal, they were busy supporting others capitalists groups
In Spain during the civil war priests carried pistols, rifles, and machines guns and they operated artillery
In Argentina priests denounced priests with the military juntas and they wanted bishop Romero to be killed
The catholic church asked the government to deport father Rogelio because he was marching with workers strikers, and working with peasants and the poor of the Ghetos, as well La Salle Brothers Cabezas and Miguel were deported because they were working with the peasants and the poor peoples, none of them supported wars
In case nobody has already knows of it
Operation Fearless Guardian 2015https://www.academia.edu/12348267/Operation_Fearless_Guardian_2015_
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