Russian Tensions
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Probably some party members did not know about it, but there were other people that knew about it before the war, and there were organizations that knew about it and they published it too, and the USA knew about it. The real enemy of the USA was not Germany, it was England and Canada and they had plans to attack both, they were too busy financing and establishing factories in Germany, and they did not care, as well they knew about the Gulap but they were making an alliance with the Soviets. Some ships sent to the USA with German Jews were rejected by the USA government and Cuba was ready to accept them the USA asked the Cuban government to reject them too. If the USA would have accepted them they had to be placed in Ghettos along with the Blacks and Latinos because there was large anti-Semitic propaganda in the USA, and many American viewed Jews as members of the black race and they would have been placed under the Jim crow law, separated but equal, and segregated schools
It’s hard to figure out what’s going on in the Ukraine at the moment. Some reports are that the recent success of the Ukrainian forces is due to the direct involvement of NATO. As a result of this I understand that Russia may declare war on the Ukraine and that all NATO countries will become legitimate targets. Is this just scare mongering or are we all f**ked?
It is a well-known secret that the USA and England are training and providing logistics for the Ukrainian soldiers.
The Russian army was not able to defeat the Taliban and they do not have the military resources to fight against NATO forces in a conventional war
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/12/rnfq-j12.html The training and weapons assistance started in 2014 They are been working in this war for several years, that is the reason why the USA left Afghanistan in order to concentrate on their efforts in Eastern Europe
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/08/17/zdig-a17.html. England has trained thousands of Ukrainian soldiers
‘The Russian army was not able to defeat the Taliban and they do not have the military resources to fight against NATO forces in a conventional war’
MS – That maybe why we’re all heading for a nuclear Armageddon. I usually leave this ‘end of the world’ stuff to Alan but I’m a tad concerned.
Mutual assured downturn
Wez, this war-time article understandably expressed uncertainty of the stories emerging of the concentration and death camps.
https://socialiststandardmyspace.blogspot.com/2016/07/1943the-war-and-workers-1943.html
The writer was unsure whether it was the customary propaganda of enemy atrocities. But it does reveal that the truth of the Holocaust was known long before the camps were actually liberated in 1945
“…The press of this country publishes reports of the wholesale extermination of Jews in Poland. We are not able to say to what extent these reports are true. The atrocity story played its propaganda part in the last war and it is no doubt doing a similar duty in this. But bearing the record of Nazism in mind lends substance to some of these reports…”
February 1943.“No doubt the Putin loving True Scotsman would have at least supported Hitler’s oppression of gay people.”
Oh, big move, playing the “gay card”! So I “love” Putin but I hate gays? Even with your tiny brain you must see the contradiction there, no?
“Meanwhile Stalin was carrying out his own massacres, and blaming Katyn on the Germans.”
Stalin placed the blame where it was due. Squarely on the heads of the Nazis. Professor Grover Furr has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the official narrative of Soviet responsibility is false.
Rather than have a repetition of a debate that previously took place with TS in some detail, those interested can read the exchanges that took place here on another topic thread.
Katyn Forest and Furr’s historical revisionism of the massacre begins here
Auschwitz couldn’t be missed. It was the size of a city. The prisoners were imploring Allied planes to bomb, but they never did. Escapees had informed the Allies, as had Kurt Gerstein, but they were ignored. They were also ignored by Pius XII.
Local Poles knew of the exterminations and taunted prisoners on the way by making throat-cutting gestures by the side of the railway tracks. Polish guerrillas killed escaped Jews as well as German soldiers.
German and other West European workers did not know. Nor did prisoners on their way, for the most part. Jews returning home after the war’s end in Poland were lynched, including the organiser of the Sobibor uprising.
German workers had brought a halt to the killing of the disabled in the 1930s by blocking Hitler’s train and demanding the end of the policy once they had discovered it. Killings continued outside Germany of course.
In Denmark workers made the seizure of Jews virtually impossible (see Hannah Arendt) by going on a general strike. The Wehrmacht in Denmark couldn’t cope, and went on strike itself. Himmler sent in the SS, but they couldn’t function. The King appeared wearing a Jewish star. Similar action occurred in Bulgaria. The Nazis could deal with violence but not with mass strike action. Contrarily, armed resistance in France and elsewhere achieved little or nothing in saving Jews.
“During both the first period of the 1940 agreement…”
I assume you’re referring to the trade agreement between Germany and the Soviet Union? The trade agreement was crucial for Soviet rearmament. In exchange for Soviet resources the Germans gave the Soviets access to all their military technology. The Soviets would have preferred to get said tech from the “Allied” countries but they were sanctioning the USSR because of the Winter War with Finland. The Winter War war was justified, by the way, as the Soviets realised, correctly, that the Finns were in league with the Nazis.
“Meanwhile Stalin was carrying out his own massacres, and blaming Katyn on the Germans.”
There was no Katyn massacre and nobody claims there was except in popular propaganda. There were a large number of graves scattered about in rough proximity to Katyn Forest. These graves do not contain prisoners of war from Soviet/Polish hostilities, as there had been no hostilities between the Soviet Union and Poland for nineteen years.
Mentioning the “Katyn Massacre” is handy for publicity but shows a fine disinterest in the reality.
“The A bomb explosions were an experiment both Truman and Stalin wanted to see on a live population”
Absolute rubbish. The A bombs were dropped to intimidate the Soviet Union.
“As a result of this I understand that Russia may declare war on the Ukraine and that all NATO countries will become legitimate targets. Is this just scare mongering or are we all f**ked?”
It’s scaremongering. What’s your source?
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