Russian Tensions
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September 11, 2022 at 6:16 pm #232972AnonymousInactive
Mao, and later Ho Chi Minh too, hoped for American support.
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Ho Chi Min asked for military help and assistance from the USA in order to defeat the French and the Vietcong had IBM computer used to attack the US warplane and Ho Chi Min ordered the massacre of all the Vietnamese Trotskyists. All of them have served the western super powers
September 11, 2022 at 6:21 pm #232973Bijou DrainsParticipantDuring both the first period of the 1940 agreement (February 11, 1940, to February 11, 1941) and the second (February 11, 1941, until the Pact was broken), Germany received:
1,600,000 tons of grain
900,000 tons of oil
200,000 tons of cotton
140,000 tons of manganese
200,000 tons of phosphates
20,000 tons of chrome ore
18,000 tons of rubber
100,000 tons of soybeans
500,000 tons of iron ore
300,000 tons of scrap metal and pig iron
2,000 kilograms of platinumSeptember 11, 2022 at 6:22 pm #232974AnonymousInactiveThe Russian Orthodox church became an ally of Stalin during WW2 and he was called the apostle of the lord who was going to defeat the devil of nazism, and they also asked the Vatican to do the same and they refused, priests like in Spain were at the war front fighting and injecting nationalism and patriotism. They created pictures of Stalin, and glass windows as a saint and there were pictures of Stalin and Roosevelt together displayed at the US Post office saying this is our friend
September 11, 2022 at 6:27 pm #232976AnonymousInactiveThat pact had two aspects: One public agreement and one secret agreement, and during WW1 the Bolsheviks published all the secret agreements made by the European superpowers, as well Stalin made a secret agreement with the USA during the conflict with Japan
September 11, 2022 at 6:36 pm #232977Thomas_MoreParticipantIn 1945 Japan was desperate to surrender but was blocked by the USA, which was determined to try its new weapon.
Tokyo pleaded with Stalin to get a surrender through to the US. Instead, he declared war and condemned the Japanese workers of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to their fate.
The A bomb explosions were an experiment both Truman and Stalin wanted to see on a live population, as the Cold War was already on the cards.September 11, 2022 at 6:37 pm #232978AnonymousInactiveThe Nazis were able to attack many of the Russian airfields because they also provided training to the soviet pilots and they knew the location of all of them. Trotsky supported the Hitler -Stalin pact and that created a huge division among the Trotskyist movement ( his secretary Raya Dunayevskaya rejected his approval of the pact and soviet state capitalism ) and he always supported Russian state capitalism, in some way he was an ally of the Soviet Union all the time
September 11, 2022 at 6:39 pm #232979Thomas_MoreParticipantStalin labelled Trotsky a Nazi too. It’s the favoured Russian epithet, much like “paedo” is in the UK.
September 11, 2022 at 6:45 pm #232980AnonymousInactiveIt has been proven that WW2 could have been shortened but the USA and Russia wanted to prolong it in order to conquer more territory and for a complete defeat of the German capitalists to avoid their economic expansion, they did not want a conditional surrender, they wanted complete defeat. Churchill asked the USA to launch the invasion of Eastern Europe to avoid the expansion of the soviet which was the main objective of Stalin, in some eastern countries they saw the Nazis as their liberators
September 11, 2022 at 6:45 pm #232981Thomas_MoreParticipantHow pitiable it is to hear reports such as that of an old lady trying to buy groceries on one side of the border hearing shouts of “Nazi!” and “Enemy!” coming from another old lady on the other side.
September 11, 2022 at 6:47 pm #232982Thomas_MoreParticipantBut after the war German chemical and steel magnates with blood on their hands were bailed out with bonuses, I believe?
September 11, 2022 at 7:16 pm #232983AnonymousInactiveJapan used the Vatican as their mediator for peace because they knew that Stalin was going to betray them, and he did it, and he declared war on Japan without being attacked by Japan, they also wanted to take control of the East as the US wanted to take control of the east and the pacific market since the very beginning of the war, they want to Japan complete defeat
Trotsky was also labeled as a Zionist, and Stalin called Lenin’s wife a syphilitic because there was the belief that Lenin had syphilis and they used Mercury to treat him. that is the reason why the Trotskyists are saying that he was poisoned, but In reality, Lenin had several strokes he suffered from cerebral atherosclerosis
The Stalinists created the concept of post-fascism despite the fact that they were wholly defeated in ww2 and anybody that opposed them was a fascist
September 11, 2022 at 7:20 pm #232987Thomas_MoreParticipantDidn’t the CPGB tell people we were Nazis, and break up our meetings?
September 11, 2022 at 7:30 pm #232989Thomas_MoreParticipantSeptember 11, 2022 at 7:35 pm #232990Thomas_MoreParticipantAnd I well remember the “communist” Chinese PLA’s brief incursion into Vietnam, singing as they set fire to peasants’ homes, “We are the people’s army!”
Not to mention their support for Pol Pot.
September 11, 2022 at 8:20 pm #232991WezParticipantI would be interested to know if any of the membership of the Party were aware of the nature of the holocaust during the war or did knowledge of this horror only emerge after the war? Is it still a matter of debate as to when the ruling classes of the Allied side knew of the death camps?
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