Russian Tensions
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May 5, 2022 at 10:25 am #229323ALBKeymaster
Yes, despite what both sides are saying, it really is a war between NATO and Russia.
Meanwhile, on the economic front, both sides are pursuing Mutual Assured Depression. It’s mad even from a capitalist point of view.
May 5, 2022 at 10:39 am #229324PJShannonKeymaster‘The ex governor of the state of California was a member of the hitler youth’.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in 1947.
May 5, 2022 at 12:07 pm #229325robbo203ParticipantLula in the link below suggests Zelensky and Putin are equally to blame for the war. Of course, wars don’t originate out of the character defects of so-called “Great Men” but this does mark a sort of change from the relentless (and frankly sickening) adoration of Zelensky by parts of the Western media. Both Zelensky and Putin head up corrupt, authoritarian oligarchies with little to choose between them when it comes to their conspicuous lack of democratic credentials
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/04/brazil-lula-zelenskiy-blame-war
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May 5, 2022 at 12:25 pm #229327Thomas_MoreParticipantAny child of age living in the Reich HAD to be a member of the Hitler Youth. It wasn’t voluntary. Bullying would have been worse than our schooldays too.
May 5, 2022 at 12:29 pm #229328Thomas_MoreParticipantSo if it’s mad even from a capitalist point of view, why would they hold back from nuclear? If they are that ignorant, they must think they’ll be ok in their underground cities, where they’ll take enough proles with them to breed.
May 5, 2022 at 12:31 pm #229329Thomas_MoreParticipantBut ALB, at least the Daily Mail has Fred Basset!
May 5, 2022 at 12:36 pm #229330ALBKeymasterNone of the so-called BRICS countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — singled out as ripe for development to the next capitalist stage — are supporting the NATO war with Russia. Nor are any of the others imposing sanctions on Russia. I don’t suppose they will be happy with the US, the EU and Japan for plunging, through their sanctions, the world economy into a slump.
May 5, 2022 at 1:54 pm #229333AnonymousInactiveI meant the father of the ex governor of California was related to the Nazi party
May 5, 2022 at 1:57 pm #229334Thomas_MoreParticipantHad you lived in Nazi Germany and been unable to get out, you would have abided by the law and kept your socialism quiet, or be killed.
How much more so the average apolitical Joe, just trying to get by.The fact is, it’s neither here nor there who was or is a Nazi. It’s just, as you said, Putin’s excuse and his crude, old-fashioned type of propaganda.
Wait a minute, I think there may be a couple of Nazis living in this town. Better bomb us all! (Thus proving you’re not one!)
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May 5, 2022 at 2:07 pm #229336Thomas_MoreParticipantPutin:
“Nazism is military parades, goose stepping troops, annihilatory weapons, all in unison with flags and bands, authoritarian suppressive laws, no free speech, imprisonment for conshies, silencing of dissent, the draft, persecution of minorities … Got to go now. May 9th parade coming soon.”
May 5, 2022 at 3:44 pm #229337AnonymousInactiveThere are thousands of so called socialists and communists who do not know what nazism really is, even more, in this party there are members who have wrong conceptions about fascism and nazism, simply, nazism is just a degenerated form of bourgeois nationalism.
The Nazis were completed defeated during WW2, and there are a bunch of dispersed fanatic Neo nazis group who do not know what nazism really was
Racism is not the main characteristic of Nazism, it existed before the emerge of the German Nazis, and the German Nazis made alliance with countries and leaders who were not Europeans.
Many African who were in Ukraine have been discriminated by other European countries
May 5, 2022 at 3:55 pm #229338Thomas_MoreParticipantThe Strasserist Nazis were suppressed by Hitler. They were anti-semites, but also anti-capitalist, but in an ignorant way.
May 5, 2022 at 4:11 pm #229339AnonymousInactiveSemites is not a race or an ethnic group , it is a language. According to the Bibles the real semites are the Arabs.
Before the Nazis took the power in Germany they were against all others races that were not white, and then they wanted to extend their influences and spheres of influences toward Africa, Asia, the Middle East and Latin America.
There are a bunch of pro capitalists followers of white nationalism who are talking about crony capitalism, and corporate socialism and they do not know what they are talking about, and they do not know anything about the economic system that they are providing support, and they are against the so called establishment, but the real establishment is capitalism, as well some left-wingers are talking about the new order, but the new order is capitalism.
Fascism exists in two form: Fascism and anti fascism
May 5, 2022 at 6:40 pm #229342AnonymousInactiveNone of the so-called BRICS countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — singled out as ripe for development to the next capitalist stage — are supporting the NATO war with Russia. Nor are any of the others imposing sanctions on Russia. I don’t suppose they will be happy with the US, the EU and Japan for plunging, through their sanctions, the world economy into a slump.
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Most of the ‘Latin American ‘ countries have been affected by the sanctions imposed against Russia by the USA and the European Union and some of those countries depended on the Covid 19 manufactured by Russia, and it is cheaper than Moderna and Pfizer vaccinesMay 5, 2022 at 8:30 pm #229343Thomas_MoreParticipantWhen Lavrov speaks of “Jewish blood” does he mean AB Negative, Group O, or what?
Hitler was a Catholic. Is Catholic blood compatible with Jewish. Maybe Alf Garnett, the expert on these matters, could have elaborated.
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