Russell Brand
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May 5, 2015 at 3:09 pm #107694
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InactiveYoung Master Smeet wrote:We only have to look at what happened to the SSP and Tommy Sheridan to see where celebrity driven politics gets us.Do you not realise how prejudicial that comment is? You tar everyone who becomes a so called celeb or famous with the same brush.Refuse him entry and if he/she does sneak into the party you deny them the right to represent the party in debate! And you haven't even met them yet!
May 5, 2015 at 3:11 pm #107695Anonymous
InactiveYoung Master Smeet wrote:or the precise opposite, a sense of our own worth sufficient to not go chasing after appreciation.Can you expand on the slur?
May 5, 2015 at 3:12 pm #107696Young Master Smeet
ModeratorVin wrote:Do you not realise how prejudicial that comment is? You tar everyone who becomes a so called celeb or famous with the same brush.Refuse him entry and if he/she does sneak into the party you deny them the right to represent the party in debate! And you haven't even met them yet!Erm, no, because it's not about personality, or person, but party structures and campaigning methods. The personal behaviour of Tommy Sheridan is irrelevent to the fact that the entire edifice of the SSP was structured around him and it crumbled when he shrugged.The point is the party controls its own chanels of communication and is identified as the party, and the case is made clear.
May 5, 2015 at 3:15 pm #107697Young Master Smeet
ModeratorVin wrote:Young Master Smeet wrote:or the precise opposite, a sense of our own worth sufficient to not go chasing after appreciation.Can you expand on the slur?
Slur?
Vin wrote:Some members have an unreal and illogical fear of so called celebs and people in the media. I think it may be an inferiority complex or similar.To which I pointed out it was the exact opposite case, a sense of self worth that doen't seek affirmation from a celeb.
May 5, 2015 at 3:18 pm #107698Anonymous
InactiveMy apologies, YMS, I misunderstood your point.
May 5, 2015 at 5:01 pm #107699ALB
Keymastergnome wrote:He's a transparent charlatan and unremitting egotist who craves only self-publicity and he'll use anyone who's naïve and gullible enough to assist him in the process.A bit over the top. This doesn't follow from the fact that, after saying "don't vote" as it changes nothing, he has ended up saying Vote Labour. It just means that he is naive.
May 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm #107700Ozymandias
ParticipantAnd there's no way Brand holds 90% of the party case in his head. Who knows, perhaps he's been told to simmer down or maybe he's been used as a puppet for the owning class all along.
May 5, 2015 at 6:06 pm #107701Anonymous
InactiveALB wrote:gnome wrote:He's a transparent charlatan and unremitting egotist who craves only self-publicity and he'll use anyone who's naïve and gullible enough to assist him in the process.A bit over the top. This doesn't follow from the fact that, after saying "don't vote" as it changes nothing, he has ended up saying Vote Labour. It just means that he is naive.
He's much more than naïve, he's a menace, if only because his actions have caused widespread disappointment and demoralisation on a huge scale judging by what people are saying on various forums.The emancipation of the working class has to be the work of the working class itself and it's neither going to be assisted by the intervention of celebrity con-artists nor by socialists clutching at straws.
May 5, 2015 at 6:32 pm #107702Anonymous
InactiveOzymandias wrote:And there's no way Brand holds 90% of the party case in his head. Who knows, perhaps he's been told to simmer down or maybe he's been used as a puppet for the owning class all along.Unless someone else wrote his book. Have you read it?
May 5, 2015 at 9:48 pm #107704Ozymandias
ParticipantHello Vin. Yes mate I have read the whole jumble on Kindle. I would say he's 60% there. But for me that might as well be 6% or 0.6% or even 0.06% cos even 90% is still too far in the distance. I was hyperventilating when I saw him thrash Paxman (and then Evan Davis…did anyone see that?) but now it's just that sickening feeling of disillusionment. I agree the party shouldn't go "look at us look at us " to these people. But it's either that or languishing in obscurity for another 111 years because people like Brand will never approach the party. Probably never.
May 5, 2015 at 9:56 pm #107705Ozymandias
ParticipantWhat I forgot to say was that I was so full of excitement when I watched his Newsnight interview because he appeared to be compleltely real and genuine. But he's an actor at the end of the day. He might even end up like Glenda Jackson. With that Miliband shit he burst the bubble. Big style. I think he's being told what to say.
May 5, 2015 at 10:10 pm #107706Anonymous
InactiveThe Evan Davis interview. Observe the body language:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRX5XLn9rJYThen Brand's appearance on Question Time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2RSKJC-ugk
May 5, 2015 at 11:34 pm #107707northern light
ParticipantSo Brand has gone from a firebrand revolutionary, with quotes like, "I think I have made it very clear, I have no faith in this system," to someone who very meakly advocates voting for Ed Miliband. There is something not right about this whole affair!! I think I might have the answer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vK2-Dv1TA
May 5, 2015 at 11:39 pm #107708Ozymandias
ParticipantFuck maybe he's one of those lizards!
May 6, 2015 at 2:51 am #107709northern light
Participant# 104 ended like a damp squib. It was a scene from the film, " Invasion of the Body Snatchers."
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