Question of wealth ownership and control

December 2024 Forums General discussion Question of wealth ownership and control

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  • #192077
    PartisanZ
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    ”an economic social class (5–10%)which owns the means and instruments for producing and distributing wealth.”

    Where might I get accurate recent  backup figures for this assertion?

    Links or such would suffice.

    #192082
    Dave B
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    There are obviously, as they say lies, damned lies and statistics

     

    But recently in the US the top 5% of households had income of over $250,000.

     

    But mean number of earners was about 2?

     

    So two earners getting 125K each would just scrape in.

     

    That would include 2 well paid ‘workers’ ; presumably like doctors and computer programmers etc?

     

    To get into the top 1%, household income needs to 475K.

     

    Which might be moving more into the area of the capitalist class and CEO area?

     

    Eg;

     

    …..What is the top one percent household income in the US in 2019?

     

     

    To be top 1% in the United States in 2019, you had to earn $475,116.00 or more as a household between January and December 2018…..

     

    https://dqydj.com/household-income-percentile-calculator/

     

    There probably isn’t a necessarily direct correlation between ownership of wealth and ‘income’.

     

    #192083
    Dave B
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    The issue of ownership of wealth can be distorted somewhat as ‘ordinary’ workers can have pension pots of 200K+, and houses etc.

     

    But it would be a bit of stretch to describe them as part-capitalist; although it has been suggested before.

     

    #192084
    PartisanZ
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    Thanks Dave.

    It is tricky, as income and assets ownership and control don’t quite equate to the same thing.

    This gave an 80-20 ratio but with a lot of formulaic stuff my head screams at.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution

    This one with Ultra High Net Worth (UMHNW) figures looks as if it might give me what I am after.

    I’ll download the PDF and give it  go.

    https://www.wealthx.com/report/world-ultra-wealth-report-2019/

     

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