Obey the formalities

November 2024 Forums General discussion Obey the formalities

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ukip-councillor-matthew-smith-accused-of-forging-signatures-on-nomination-papers-9959026.html

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    A former Ukip parliamentary candidate submitted electoral nomination forms with forged signatures in an attempt to boost the party’s performance in council elections, a court has heard.[…]

    The prosecution said that Smith intended to deceive by submitting falsified nominations for candidates hoping to stand in the 2013 election for Norfolk County Council. Seven out of eight forms submitted by Ukip were alleged to contain forged signatures.

    #107486
    jondwhite
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    The ruling ideas of each age (election legal formalities) have ever been the ideas of its ruling class.

    #107487
    ALB
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    I don't agree. Having been an election agent on numerous occasions and having just read through the rules and regulations for the coming general election I would say that the procedures for nominations, voting and counting the votes are scrupulous and fair to all candidates. The only areas where there can be abuse are electoral registration and postal voting. The latter is not only open to abuse (and no doubt frequenty is abused) but also undemocratic as it allows some voters to vote before the campaign is over, i.e before voting day. In my opinion, this possibility should be abolished except for those who are genuinely unable to get to a polling station. Apart from this, I can't see why these procedures couldn't continue into socialism. They will certainly ensure that any majority vote for socialism will truly reflect what voters want.On postal voting, you do have a point: the tuling class gets its legitimacy through its representatives being elected. The less people that vote the less legitimacy they can claim. This no doubt is why they have  allowed and encouraged postal voting, despite its laxness, to grow as it boosts the number of voters.

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    jondwhite
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    Yes voting and counting votes in the United Kingdom have been observed by independent observers as fair compared to the United States etc. I can't see why these practices can't continue into socialism. I'm not as opposed to postal voting under any circumstances either. However nomination rules and especially ballot access in the United States however scrupulously applied cannot be regarded as fair other than fair to the ruling ideas of the ruling class.

    #107489
    Anonymous
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    ALB wrote:
    On postal voting, you do have a point: the tuling class gets its legitimacy through its representatives being elected. 

    Sounds like a Chinese mafia-type class – 'tuled up' Triad  

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