New website 2015
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jondwhite wrote:Time for a six month progress update? Looking forward to this.
This somehow reminds me of Waiting for Godot – and whatever happened to the Socialist Standard digitization project?
jondwhite wrote:Time for a six month progress update? Looking forward to this.Work on the new website has been put on hold until I have done an exam, in early October. The present situation is that the problem of importing multi-leveled content, i.e pages and issues of the Standard, has been resolved. Some custom code had to be written as the Drupal Migrate software does not adequately import such content in it's current form. We have also set up a virtual machine environment and GIT hub depositaory. So that development can easily be shared amongst multiple developers. The remaining work is to combine the import configuration I worked out with the code that has been written. I hope to make some videos available so people can see what we have been doing.
DJP wrote:jondwhite wrote:Time for a six month progress update? Looking forward to this.Work on the new website has been put on hold until I have done an exam, in early October. The present situation is that the problem of importing multi-leveled content, i.e pages and issues of the Standard, has been resolved. Some custom code had to be written as the Drupal Migrate software does not adequately import such content in it's current form. We have also set up a virtual machine environment and GIT hub depositaory. So that development can easily be shared amongst multiple developers. The remaining work is to combine the import configuration I worked out with the code that has been written. I hope to make some videos available so people can see what we have been doing.
This response fails to provide any positive insight into what is the purpose of the overall changes for restructuring and its content. Will it be the hub for the WSM/SPGB besides a forum, will the present information contents require an overhaul in editing and updating? To turn an internet forum into a true consensus-building site we need to restructure it from the ground up.Will it still play to the weaknesses of internet debate by projecting an exclusivness purely on the socialist case? Really, the analogy here is that most internet sites (ours included) tell people to build a house, but let them bring their own tools and pound away at whatever they feel like pounding at. I see a site that sets up construction standards: gives people a basic blueprint, makes sure they are working on a useful task, makes sure they are using the right tools for the job in the right way. Basically setting up a system where the discussion can organize itself fruitfully rather than fitfully.In short, system analysis combined with project and process management.
Are you honestly saying that even you don't know what's going on, Brian, and you're a member of the Internet Committee? Strewth !
gnome wrote:Are you honestly saying that even you don't know what's going on, Brian, and you're a member of the Internet Committee? Strewth !Yes. All anybody knows on the IC is there are going to be changes in the structure of the site. What they actually consist of is being left to Darren's 'good judgement'. At the very least I think at this stage we should not be so complacent and request an outline.
Brian wrote:At the very least I think at this stage we should not be so complacent and request an outline.Wot, me complacent? You must be having a giraffe, Brian. Seriously though, it may be time for the EC to intervene and if members don't have the time or the know-how we'd better soon find someone who does.
gnome wrote:Brian wrote:At the very least I think at this stage we should not be so complacent and request an outline.Wot, me complacent? You must be having a giraffe, Brian. Seriously though, it may be time for the EC to intervene and if members don't have the time or the know-how we'd better soon find someone who does.
I disagree entirely. Its for the IC to intervene not the EC at this stage by requesting Darren to provide an outline of his proposals so we have some idea of what they actually entail. Currently, there's no sign of project management being effectively applied on the proposed changes.I'm a socialists because I'm not in favour of 'one man bands' and most certainly not in favour of 'done deals'.
The content and functionality of the new website will be exactly the same as the existing one. It will just look different. All that is being undertaken is an upgrade from Drupal 6 to Drupal 7. The project is on ice until October but should easily be completed in a few months after that, most of the complicated work has been done. There's not much more to say..
I think the comrade should be left to get on with it. I used to update the previous site and it was a mess. Darren's work on this new model has been terrific with added functionality, he has developed us a beautiful and functional site. We just do not have anyone else available, with the skill and expertise who can spend the time.
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