NEITHER WASHINGTON NOR MOSCOW!
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NEITHER WASHINGTON NOR MOSCOW!, i always thought was the IS/Cliff invention during the Korean War.
Seems like a lot of things, it was stolen from others.
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/mckinney/1948/04/wp8yrs.htm
Nor Beijing too
Whoever invented it, Tony Cliff is still saying it from beyond the grave:https://independentaustralia.net/article-display/neither-washington-nor-moscow-nor-more-war-in-syria,11397
alanjjohnstone wrote:Seems he invented the phrase "state capitalism" as well according to that articleI think it was Nikolai Bukharin, and then Raya Dunayeskaya and CLR James as a world phenomenon. The Chinese used the expression too
Also some SWPers made it into an albumhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_RedskinsI always thought it sounded grander than it is, like a lot of Bolshevik rhetoric. Dumbed down sloganeering for the masses.
Not to mention us. The term "state capitalism" was in use even before the First World Slaughter, as by Kropotkin, Wilhelm Liebknecht and, again, us (even before Cliff was born):http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1910s/1910/no-68-april-1910/evolution-and-state-capitalism
alanjjohnstone wrote:Seems he invented the phrase "state capitalism" as well according to that articleThe Trotskyists rejected the concept of state capitalism due to the fact that Leon Trotsky until the final day of his was saying that the Soviet Union was a socialist country, because he considered that means of productions owned by the state was socialism, and his wife Natala Sedova was expelled from the Fourth International because she presented a different point of view. https://www.marxists.org/archive/sedova-natalia/1951/05/09.htmhttps://criticismetc.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/natalia-sedova-1947/As Adam has indicated in another message the term was used before WWI by others personalitiesCliff presented his theory of State capitalism many years after he was supporting Trotsky"s theory of the Degenerated workers state, but they did not publish any economic facts like Dunayevskaya-James did showing that the so-called Five Years plans of the Soviet Union were plans for capitalist developments. Their objection was that planned production was socialism, but the capitalist can also plan certain aspects of their economic https://www.marxists.org/archive/cliff/works/1955/statecap/ch06.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/dunayevskaya/works/1942/russian-economy/ch01.htmAnarchists and state capitalismhttps://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-state-capitalism-in-russia
Quote:Neither Washington nor Moscow has a way out for the working class. Only a militant socialist programme and policy can provide an answer to both. Not by rejecting Marxism but by basing itself on its fundamental tenets can the labour movement in Britain solve the problems of our time
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