Momentum and entryists

[jondwhite]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/08/jeremy-corbyn-momentum-group-moves-to-block-influence-of-hard-left-parties#img-1

[ALB]

The Militant statement complaining about not being allowed to infiltrate Momentum can be found here:http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/21875See how they moan:

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But like classical reformists, who in this period cannot carry through reforms, Corbyn and his team irritate the ruling class who want to get rid of them from the leadership of the party, but also fail to satisfy the demands of working people, particularly young people, for decisive action.This is reflected in Momentum. Tom Watson has used the same terminology that was used in the past against Militant (forerunner of the Socialist Party) and others on the left, that Momentum is a "party within a party" and should be disciplined. What they want is that the right should be organised – as they have made abundantly clear – but the rank and file and the left should not be organised.How does the leadership of Momentum respond to this? They suggest their own form of a witch-hunt – as shown by the disgraceful attacks of the Momentum leadership on Socialist Party members in Waltham Forest, and particularly Nancy Taaffe, for arguing for re-selection and democratisation of the Labour Party They do not seem prepared to discuss and debate these ideas. Momentum nationally has now stated that Socialist Party members and other non-Labour Party members won't be allowed to take part in Momentum decision-making meetings.

Poor parasites without a host. But why don't they do what they did last time: join the Labour Party like Workers Power and the AW already have. There must be rich pickings for Trotskyists there. Of course the other section of Militant never left the Labour Party anyway and are now well ensconced in Momentum as well, as the introduction to this article shows.

[alanjjohnstone]

Momentum is attempting to purge anyone who is insufficiently supportive of Jeremy Corbyn … Corbyn supporters now have a majority, are trying to override democratic decisions taken locally when they do not go their way.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/02/labour-faces-subversion-momentum-far-left-roy-hattersley-watford-byelectionRoy Hattersley says Momentum now poses a far more serious threat to Labour than Militant did three decades ago. He says that unless “Real Labour” challenges what he calls “subversion” by far-left forces, democratic socialism could die a slow death.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/02/labours-great-crisis-time-to-fight-back-momentum-jeremy-corbyn

[Anonymous]

alanjjohnstone wrote:

Momentum is attempting to purge anyone who is insufficiently supportive of Jeremy Corbyn … Corbyn supporters now have a majority, are trying to override democratic decisions taken locally when they do not go their way.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/02/labour-faces-subversion-momentum-far-left-roy-hattersley-watford-byelectionRoy Hattersley says Momentum now poses a far more serious threat to Labour than Militant did three decades ago. He says that unless “Real Labour” challenges what he calls “subversion” by far-left forces, democratic socialism could die a slow death.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/02/labours-great-crisis-time-to-fight-back-momentum-jeremy-corbyn

Is this necessarilly a criticism? After all we get rid of members who prefer to support Corbyn? If we didn't then wouldn't  our party and REAL socialism  be under threat? 'Purge' is not a criticism we would accept, is it?And doesn't the majority of our party 'overide democtatic decisions taken locally" if those decisions go against the majority ? 

[Anonymous]

ALB wrote:

Poor parasites without a host. But why don't they do what they did last time: join the Labour Party like Workers Power and the AW already have. There must be rich pickings for Trotskyists there. Of course the other section of Militant never left the Labour Party anyway and are now well ensconced in Momentum as well, as the introduction to this article shows.

Well, I don't need to go to the right wing  press to see workers streotyped and condemned for taking an interest in politics. Most Corbyn supporters are ordinary and genuine members of the working class, it doesn't help to join the scum press with labels. 

[Anonymous]

Vin wrote:

 it doesn't help to join the scum press with labels. 

That's a label.

[Anonymous]

Bob Andrews wrote:

Vin wrote:

 it doesn't help to join the scum press with labels. 

That's a label.

You sound objective. My perspective is subjective class interests. The Capitalist propaganda machine is scum press and workers are victims of it. Heard of the class war? You be objective and stick up for your class enemies.

[alanjjohnstone]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/momentum-members-growth-labour-party-jeremy-corbyn-ukip-green-conservative-membership-numbers-tory-a8166031.htmlMembership of Momentum has surged above 35,000 and is growing by more than 1,000 a month. Membership figures had now overtaken Ukip and are on course to overtake the Green Party, who currently possess a membership of 39,000. 

[alanjjohnstone]

Momentum has its own offices in east London, more than 30,000 members, and is financially independent, with 90% of its donations coming from membership fees and individual donations, not unions.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/28/momentum-bid-for-key-labour-post-exposes-tension-with-unite“Our agenda is transforming the party. There are going to be places where Momentum and the unions disagree,” one source said. “What we want to make sure, first and foremost, is that the party is run collectively.”Union officers on the party’s ruling NEC do not speak as one voice, with Unison and Unite regularly at odds, but none wants to see their bloc’s influence diminished.“It was very clear then that the union-controlled NEC wants democratisation of the party as long as it suits them,” a source said. “It was democratisation from the top down – it should come from the bottom up.”

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