Meanwhile, in Mosul
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Remember when the pacification of Aleppo was daily news?
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/recent/
52 killed by coalition striks on Sunday
44 killed by coalition airstrikes on Saturday
9 on friday
47 on Thursday, plus 17 by shelling.
And note: Mosul still hasn't fallen, the killing will continue.
Not had time to fact check this, but:
http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2017/01/05/bombs-dropped-in-2016/
Quote:In President Obama’s last year in office, the United States dropped 26,171 bombs in seven countries.That's about 3 bombs an hour. 12,000 each in Iraq and Syria.
https://apnews.com/0630f8b819754b2297505f33045d7f85/Fierce-battles-leave-hospital-in-Iraqi-city-of-Mosul-gutted?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APThe desctiption of a battle to take a hospital
Quote:The hospital basement had been transformed into an IS bunker. Dozens of mattresses filled rooms, ammunition and body armor lined hallways and Islamic religious texts were piled atop shelves. There was no evidence to suggest the complex was being used as a hospital to treat civilians at the time of the attack: medical records viewed by an AP team at the scene were dated more than a year ago.Coalition spokesman U.S. Army Col. John Dorrian said it was "clear" the hospital was being used by IS as a headquarters and was no longer being used as a facility to treat civilians."If the enemy is going to use facilities like (hospitals) as a storage place for weapons or as an operations headquarters, we will strike those kinds of facilities," Dorrian said, adding that the practice is consistent with the laws of armed conflict.Compare with the same stories coming out of Alleppo….
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/british-forces-air-strikes-in-iraq-monthly-listThis is a useful list, detailing the activities of the UK Airforce in Iraq & Syria.For example:
1st November wrote:Tornados patrolled north of Mosul where they supported advancing Kurdish forces. A Paveway IV guided bomb destroyed a Daesh heavy machine-gun position when it opened fire on the Peshmerga, while an Enhanced Paveway II demolished a building in which a light machine-gun was sited. Meanwhile, to the south-east of the city, a Reaper provided further close air support to Iraqi troops. It conducted Hellfire attacks on a mortar team who were spotted firing, and two groups of terrorists, including individuals with rocket-propelled grenades. The Reaper also directed a successful coalition air attack onto a number of terrorists defending a trench network.https://www.gov.uk/government/news/update-air-strikes-against-daeshActually, this is the updating news feed, with more up-to-date info. Obviously, the wording is propagandistic (note how often they mention 'carefully' in the text). Interesting to note 1,350 personnel committed to the fight against Deash, I wonder if that includes ground crew?
This is interesteding, ISIS have been using drones, though the MOD cannot bring themselves to use the word:
Quote:During the battle for Mosul, small armed remotely piloted aerial vehicles with grenades have been used by Daesh a number of times to harass Iraqi troops, with reports suggesting they have also been used to target civilian refugees.Article here making the point that truth is the first casualty in war:http://www.lrb.co.uk/v39/n03/patrick-cockburn/who-supplies-the-news
https://www.channel4.com/news/inside-the-battle-for-mosulCredit to Channel Four for producing this film, and at least breaking the silence: obviously, it's an embedded piece (lots of pictures of relieved civilians, especially children, but that woman in the houselooks abjectly terrified), but it's a picture of what's going on in Mosul.But, for reference, imagine a similar peice embedded with the Syrian Arab army.
The battle continues, and nary any pres coverage:https://theconversation.com/despite-reports-of-imminent-success-mosul-is-still-a-dangerous-flashpoint-72987
Quote:It has lately been reported that IS “sleeper cells” are present in eastern Mosul, but of much greater immediate concern are the frequent attacks being mounted in the supposedly liberated part of the city. Although supposedly under government control, the east is frequently subjected to attacks by mortars, suicide bombs and armed drones.More worrying in the long term is that in its efforts to maintain control, the Iraqi government appears to be relying not on regular army units but on Shia militias, who already have a reputation for harsh treatment of Mosul’s mostly Sunni civilians. This puts the CTS units in a bind: reluctant to hand over their garrison role to the militias, but unable to rely on the regular army to replace them.Mosul is not falling. The Iraqi army is taking a pasting.And Raqqa is not going to be attacked soon:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-scrap-retake-raqqa-isis-islamic-state-barack-obama-months-old-plan-a7561886.htmlAnd the running commentary from the BBC: doesn't make the top headlines, but it's there so they can say they have covered it.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37702442Fighting until June, they're reckoning.
The Turkish Army is having difficulty in capturing the ISIS provincial outpost of Al Bab in Syria:http://syriadirect.org/news/contrary-to-turkish-optimism-an-arduous-battle-against-a-%e2%80%98dug-in%e2%80%99-islamic-state-in-al-bab/Meanwhile here's what the "moderate" rebels recently booted out of eastern Aleppo are up to:http://syriadirect.org/news/when-islamic-police-raid-a-school-for-girls-to-examine-their-clothing-an-impromptu-protest-forces-them-to-release-the-arrested/
https://theconversation.com/islamic-state-prepares-for-life-after-mosul-as-iraqi-morale-runs-low-74869It's turned into a meat grinder: and here's a chance the Iraqi state may not survve victory, if its elite forces are denuded, and th Sunni sections of society support a sustained guerilla campaign.Genius.Meanwhile, in Syria:Ass is losing his grip to the militias he relies on:http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/assad-power-slips-in-syria-as-warlords-grow-more-powerful-a-1137475.htmlOh, and from iraq body count: Saturday 18 March: 85 killed.Mosul: 30 killed by government shelling; 24 found in mass grave; 24 by air strikes.
They want to destroy the whole middle east to take the oil. They do not care how many human being that kill. The sad situation is that millions of workers are supporting their atrocities. Nationalism is worst than rat poison
ALB wrote:Meanwhile here's what the "moderate" rebels recently booted out of eastern Aleppo are up toMore on the "moderates" here:http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=63332
Sympo wrote:I wonder how large the percentage of the Syrian rebels that are jihadists is.Probably it is out of topic, but it is related to world terrorism provoked by terroristsThe same question would be, How many peoples in Latin American are anti-imperialist, and why they are anti yankists ? How many times the so called anti-terrorists have used terrorists ? How many times those so called anti-terrorist have invaded others nations creating terrors around inocent peoples ? How many dictators those anti-terrorists have placed terrorists in power to kill others inocents peoples ?Why so many young peoples in the Middle East are becoming members of those terrorists groups ? Probably, each one of them has lost a relative, or a whole family and mistakenly they have joined those organizationsThe elected terrorist ( two times ) known as Ronald Reagan said that Grenada, a small island which did not have a millitary airport was a threat to the USA,( a country which has 10 thousands atomic bombs, and it was the first terrorist to drop atomic bombs in Japan against civilians, used as scientific experiments.) He sent a bunch of soldiers to kill thousands of peoples. The excuse by that time was communism, bu they were considered as terrortist too, the enemy of the month club. Which communists ? Have those soldiers ever read a books about communism ? Probably, comics books about Tom and Jerry or Archie. They had already killed Maurice Bishop which was a nationalist, and his movement was a nationalist movement, so there is a relationship between nationalism and communism, what about the new emerging fanatics nationalists ? They must be terrorist tooHow many terrorists did those terrorist train in the School of the Americas ? They trained thousands of them including policemen, the whole police force of Costa Rica was trained by them ( they do not have an army, but they have policemen ) The only requirement to become a student was to be ready to kill, and to kill young peoples that were reading a pamphlet written by Marx or Engels, that was also prohibited, and many peoples do not know that, how many young peoples were killed because they were studying Medicine in the soviet union at the University of Patrice Lumumba ? No wonder Fidel Castro said that the yankees want every country to have Machetes, Mochas and Kitchen knife, bow and arrow, with that type of weapon anybody can be brave, and patriot, and anybody can go and kick butts. Rumsfield the terrorist that supported the invasion of Iraq went to Nicaragua and El Salvador and told the Congress that they had to get rid of all their weapons, and they only had old weapons made by the Soviets, and they are unable to find the parts.There is another terrorist known as Negroponte, founder and director of many terrorist groups in Central America like the Jihadists that has been considered as a hero by the US goverment, and he is living like a king, and he was in charge of the Embassy of Baghdah, nobody knows about him, and then many peoples are shouting against the radical islamists, there is not difference between him and Osama Bill Laden. if they let him walk on the street of Honduras without any bodyguard the peoples would killl himAnother elected terrorist and Jihadist known as Lyndon B Johnson said that there were communist terrorist cutting heads in the Dominican Republic in 1965, and they were a threat to 12 American tourist that were drinking. Rum and Coke in Boca Chica and those terrorists were poor peoples from a Ghetos ( Christians/Catholics ) known as Ciudad Nueva fighting against the same terrorists that they have placed in power form more than 35 years, and peoples got tired of them, and they armed themselves with sticks, rocks, and old revolvers, and then, they arrived killing all the so called terrrorists with modern weapons. They cut the heads to 10 thousands poor terrorists, and provoked an enormous emigration. There were so many communists and terrorists in that island that they did not have a communist party. After that the amount of guerrillas fighters increased and most of them were killed by the operation Lawn Mowers There was another elected terrorist known as George Bush sr ( or Popy Bush for his relationship with opium ) that he was looking for a terorist in Panama ( trained by him ) and he sent a bunch of Jihadists soldiers, and they killed more than 1000 peoples to take possession of the Panama Canal, they dropped bombs all over the place, do they know why they were fighting for ? Probably, they knew shit about the real reasonsWhat about the private army of terorists that the USA is training in Latin America using paramilitary and ex-murderes ? Those terrorists can replace ISIS and AlQaeda if they become out of control, they are being trained by the same corporations that have trained others private soldiers, that is reason why the statistic of death soldier is Iraq is so small, they are not part of the statistic, and also they are cheaper, they do not need retirements, school benefits, and healthcare benefitsThe problem of the Middle East is petroleum, I have not seen any Jihadists in countries where they are planting radish, lettuce, tomato, or plantain. In Mexico, Venezuela, and Colombia, they have petroleum, but the Yankees have control over those resources, and they have an army ready to invade those countries if the peoples rebel against them, and the goverment want to nationalzie those resources. They will not be called communists, they would be called terorists, that is the new excuse to invade countries.Those so called White Helmets they are like the Blue Helmets and the Peace Corps Volunteer, agents of the original terrorists. The Blue Hermets have been in Haiti kicking butts for many years, do they have terrorists in Haiti ? Do they have Jihadist in that island ? They are the real terrorists, robbing gold, silver, and dealing with drugs, and raping women. After the invasion of the Blue Helmets, heroin, and cocaine increased to more than 400%, and they have used Haiti as a laboratory for many diseases, and biological bombs
I missed the documentary about Assad's disappearances: obviously, he is wading his way through blood to stay in power, sadly, though, a lot of blood would need to be shed to be rid of him. Witness:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39383989
BBC wrote:A senior UN official in Iraq said she was stunned by accounts of "terrible loss of life", after claims that at least 200 people had been killed in an air strike by the US-led coalition.Iraq Body count lists:Mosul: 230 by coalition air strikes; 108 in booby-trapped houses; 3 by mortar shelling; 1 by rocket; 3 women executed; 1 by IED. That's for Thursday (probably includes the figures in the UN report). Note the BBC concentrates on the careful investigation by the US.Airwars appears to have some data:https://airwars.org/data/Worth looking at.
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