Marxist Animalism
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You are therefore rationalising in order to soothe your conscience, although I consider you to be wrong. But you are reasoning, even though I consider your reasoning at fault.
Rubbish. I am naturally omnivourous. I do not need to rationalise animal husbandry. I can certainly be opposed to the mass production and accelerated slaughtering methods where animals can suffer needlessly and in many instances workers can be traumatised with the killing methods being accelerated.
I have no doubt this will be much improved in the new society.
Times will change perceived needs and demands also. Most people I know have reduced their meat consumption and some are vegetarians and some vegans.
I have no need to soothe my conscience as you moralistically, condescendingly and judgementally, put it.
If I had permission to keep chickens out back, I would not baulk at eating their eggs or wringing their necks and detering too much predation by foxes and such.
As I don’t have and can’t get such permission, being a council house tenant where this is forbidden, I have to purchase the produce.
Have you never formed a bond with a fellow animal who is not a human?
Here we are back again then, apparently unable to discuss fellow animals other than as food/objects of production.
You lambasted the “murdering” stray cat in your neighbourhood. Isn’t that hypocrisy?
Is this how you feel about fellow animals you can’t husband as food?
I’m beginning to think that not only would you be willing to be a slaughterman in socialism, but that you are thinking of applying for the job as your job of choice in advance!
Why aren’t you one now, btw?
Sock it to him, Matt, on behalf of the majority of Party members that he looks down on from his proclaimed position of moral superiority.
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“Sock it to him, Matt, on behalf of the majority of Party members that he looks down on from his proclaimed position of moral superiority.”
Could you please provide details of the Party Poll which confirmed this “majority”? Or is it merely an arrogant assumption? My suspicion is that there is more support for MA’s position than perhaps you’d want to acknowledge.
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Depopulating pigs
Mogler aims to slaughter about 170 pigs every 45 minutes, using a rotating slaughter crew to avoid mental or physical fatigue. âOur capacity would be about 1,500 to 2,000 pigs a day,â he said. It will replicate a slaughterhouse death time of less than two seconds.
Gassing the animals is currently thought to be one of the fastest and most humane methods, leaving animals unconscious within two minutes and dead within 10.
Another depopulation option is overheating, or hyperthermia, commonly known as ventilator shutdown (VSD). A recent undercover video of an alleged VSD pig cull at a different Iowa producer contained disturbing scenes and sounds. Asked about the video, Mogler said it would have involved turning off the ventilation, turning up the temperature and then the introduction of steam. âIt would take less than one hour and any remaining pigs would be shot with bolt guns. It might only take 10 minutes in fact for the pigs to die. But for us that is too long.â
How humane!
“Depopulating pigs
If these are some of the methods the alleged majority of members are content to ignore or turn a blind eye to then that’s a further good reason for my recent decision to relinquish membership of the Party.
Could you please provide details of the Party Poll which confirmed this âmajorityâ? Or is it merely an arrogant assumption? My suspicion is that there is more support for MAâs position than perhaps youâd want to acknowledge.
That is hogwash from you Dave. There are fair sprinkling of vegans, vegetarians but meat eaters have no need to rationalise their naturally omniverous choice to eat meat and still want more humane animal husbandry.
That is a damned insult.
Here we are back again then, apparently unable to discuss fellow animals other than as food/objects of production.
You lambasted the âmurderingâ stray cat in your neighbourhood. Isnât that hypocrisy?
Only in your patronising head as you ignored the fact of it ‘lie-ing behind me as I type’
Is this how you feel about fellow animals you canât husband as food?
That fellow animal would eat me if it had no choice.
Iâm beginning to think that not only would you be willing to be a slaughterman in socialism,
You are unaware of the general socialist response to, ‘who would do the dirty work?’.
The fact is if we get socialsim as a majority of meat eaters then someone would have to do the dirty work or it would not get done..
but that you are thinking of applying for the job as your job of choice in advance!
Why arenât you one now, btw?
More personalised stuff from you.
“That is hogwash from you Dave. There are fair sprinkling of vegans, vegetarians but meat eaters have no need to rationalise their naturally omniverous choice to eat meat and still want more humane animal husbandry.
That is a damned insult.”
It wasn’t an insult but an opinion. But you respond with insult. As admin or ‘keymaster’ of this forum you’re supposed to set some sort of example, not blatantly infringe the rules.
7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.BTW, the word you’re looking for is omnivorous…Have you never formed a bond with a fellow animal who is not a human?
That is an absurd, ridiculous, condescending, personal question from someone who, from a perceived moral highground, seeks to belittle and dehumanise others.
âThat is hogwash from you Dave. There are fair sprinkling of vegans, vegetarians but meat eaters have no need to rationalise their naturally omniverous choice to eat meat and still want more humane animal husbandry.
That is a damned insult.â
It wasnât an insult but an opinion. But you respond with insult. As admin or âkeymasterâ of this forum youâre supposed to set some sort of example, not blatantly infringe the rules.
7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.BTW, the word youâre looking for is omnivorousâŠI was not refering to your comment, except as ‘hogwash’, but to the post by Mutual Aid.
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