Marx was a Productionist, not a Materialist

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  • November 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm #105800
    DJP
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    LBird wrote:
    what 'bunch of theories' do you use to understand the world?

    All of them, but probably not all of them at the same time depending on what it is I'm focusing on…

    November 15, 2014 at 4:43 pm #105801
    LBird
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    DJP wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    There must be a 'unifying' theory behind the 'bunch'.

    Why presume that? There's no good reason to really think there is, look into all the recent work on cognitive biases…

    So, you don't think Socialism/Communism is a 'unifying theory'?Do you assume that both bourgeois thinkers and socialist thinkers are of equal worth to workers?I must be clear, that I think S/C is a 'unifying theory', and I think the working class must produce thinkers that can undermine bourgeois theorists.I'm not sure why you don't 'presume that', too, if you think socialism is possible.Do you think that the bourgeoisie are going to provide the intellectual leadership for us? Isn't that the way the Leninists think?

    November 15, 2014 at 4:45 pm #105802
    LBird
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    DJP wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    what 'bunch of theories' do you use to understand the world?

    All of them, but probably not all of them at the same time depending on what it is I'm focusing on…

    World revolution? Isn't that what your 'focus' is upon?Don't you think that even physics will be part of that revolution?

    November 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm #105803
    DJP
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    LBird wrote:
    Do you assume that both bourgeois thinkers and socialist thinkers are of equal worth to workers?

    Depends on what they are thinking about..

    November 15, 2014 at 4:51 pm #105804
    DJP
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    LBird wrote:
    World revolution? Isn't that what your 'focus' is upon?

    Sometimes.About five minutes ago my focus was on "how to make a cup of tea". Das Kapital was of no use to me then…

    November 15, 2014 at 4:52 pm #105805
    LBird
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    DJP wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    Do you assume that both bourgeois thinkers and socialist thinkers are of equal worth to workers?

    Depends on what they are thinking about..

    Hmmm…. very coy!

    November 15, 2014 at 4:54 pm #105806
    LBird
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    DJP wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    World revolution? Isn't that what your 'focus' is upon?

    Sometimes.About five minutes ago my focus was on "how to make a cup of tea". Das Kapital was of no use to me then…

    Sounds like a rejection of science, and a return to empiricism!Problem is, if we as workers use empiricism to inform our view of the world, we'll end up making cups of tea for the rich, forever.

    November 15, 2014 at 5:36 pm #105807
    DJP
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    LBird wrote:
    Sounds like a rejection of science, and a return to empiricism!

    Sounds like a storm in a teacup to me!

    November 15, 2014 at 6:38 pm #105808
    LBird
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    DJP wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    Sounds like a rejection of science, and a return to empiricism!

    Sounds like a storm in a teacup to me!

    What, Capitalism?My chosen scientific ideology tells me otherwise!

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