Marx and Automation

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   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

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   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

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Marcos wrote:

   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

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Well, there is a post indicationg that we are in the verge of fascism/nazism and darki age, and even Robbo wrote saying that capitalism can not establish a neo-feudalo society. This post is an explanation of what Fascism/Nazism really and the actual situation around the world does not qualify to be called Fasscism or Nazism. The left wingers and the Stalinists the see fascists and nazists all over the world, or anybody that was opposed to the Soviet coup, even more, the goverment of Trump can not be called a Fascists/Nazis regimes, In different countries we can neo-Nazis or neo-Fascists, but they do not have the same economical power and support like the Nazis had in Germany

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Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

First warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

Well, there is a post indicationg that we are in the verge of fascism/nazism and darki age, and even Robbo wrote saying that capitalism can not establish a neo-feudalo society. This post is an explanation of what Fascism/Nazism really and the actual situation around the world does not qualify to be called Fasscism or Nazism. The left wingers and the Stalinists the see fascists and nazists all over the world, or anybody that was opposed to the Soviet coup, even more, the goverment of Trump can not be called a Fascists/Nazis regimes, In different countries we can neo-Nazis or neo-Fascists, but they do not have the same economical power and support like the Nazis had in Germany

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[Alan Kerr]

@MBellemareCrusoe can catch fish in his hands at low-tide.Or, Crusoe thinks of how to make a new tool, a fish-trap.Crusoe could bait and check the trap at low-tide for fish.Crusoe must choose to trap or not.How does Crusoe choose? 

[alanjjohnstone]

At the risk of straying from the topic, MB's latest offering on Dissident Vocehttps://dissidentvoice.org/2017/09/the-limits-and-deficiencies-of-dialectical-and-historical-materialism/#more-71852The article  "The Limits and Deficiencies of Dialectical and Historical Materialism (An Abstract of the Principles of Anarcho-Historical-Relativism)"is a very lengthy, very wordy one and i still have not given it a proper read.

[Anonymous]

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

First warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

Well, there is a post indicationg that we are in the verge of fascism/nazism and darki age, and even Robbo wrote saying that capitalism can not establish a neo-feudalo society. This post is an explanation of what Fascism/Nazism really and the actual situation around the world does not qualify to be called Fasscism or Nazism. The left wingers and the Stalinists the see fascists and nazists all over the world, or anybody that was opposed to the Soviet coup, even more, the goverment of Trump can not be called a Fascists/Nazis regimes, In different countries we can neo-Nazis or neo-Fascists, but they do not have the same economical power and support like the Nazis had in Germany

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Moderator I do not like secrecy, this is not a secret society. When I want to say something I would say it in front of a  shooting squad, I have confronted dictators and the millitary police. There are a bunch of trolls in this  froum posting ideas which has nothing to do with the forum, and they are still walking like Johnny Walker. If you want  , you can remove my name from the forum,  and I would not  care your decision. I would move  my microphone to another place. 

[Brian]

alanjjohnstone wrote:

At the risk of straying from the topic, MB's latest offering on Dissident Vocehttps://dissidentvoice.org/2017/09/the-limits-and-deficiencies-of-dialectical-and-historical-materialism/#more-71852The article  "The Limits and Deficiencies of Dialectical and Historical Materialism (An Abstract of the Principles of Anarcho-Historical-Relativism)"is a very lengthy, very wordy one and i still have not given it a proper read.

Basically its yet another attempt to reiterate Descartes hypothesis 'I think, therefore I am' by clumping the whole cabdoodle of dialectic, historical and materialism in one wordy mishmash so it attains the desired result by swamping the intellect.LBird better get in there quick he's got a supporter to bring to the table.

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Marcos wrote:

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Marcos wrote:

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Marcos wrote:

   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

First warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

Well, there is a post indicationg that we are in the verge of fascism/nazism and darki age, and even Robbo wrote saying that capitalism can not establish a neo-feudalo society. This post is an explanation of what Fascism/Nazism really and the actual situation around the world does not qualify to be called Fasscism or Nazism. The left wingers and the Stalinists the see fascists and nazists all over the world, or anybody that was opposed to the Soviet coup, even more, the goverment of Trump can not be called a Fascists/Nazis regimes, In different countries we can neo-Nazis or neo-Fascists, but they do not have the same economical power and support like the Nazis had in Germany

2nd warning: 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.

Moderator I do not like secrecy, this is not a secret society. When I want to say something I would say it in front of a  shooting squad, I have confronted dictators and the millitary police. There are a bunch of trolls in this  froum posting ideas which has nothing to do with the forum, and they are still walking like Johnny Walker. If you want  , you can remove my name from the forum,  and I would not  care your decision. I would move  my microphone to another place. 

3rd and final warning: 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.This warning will stay in place for the next 30 days.  I this breaches the rules within this period he'll be immediately suspended.

[Anonymous]

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

First warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

Well, there is a post indicationg that we are in the verge of fascism/nazism and darki age, and even Robbo wrote saying that capitalism can not establish a neo-feudalo society. This post is an explanation of what Fascism/Nazism really and the actual situation around the world does not qualify to be called Fasscism or Nazism. The left wingers and the Stalinists the see fascists and nazists all over the world, or anybody that was opposed to the Soviet coup, even more, the goverment of Trump can not be called a Fascists/Nazis regimes, In different countries we can neo-Nazis or neo-Fascists, but they do not have the same economical power and support like the Nazis had in Germany

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Moderator I do not like secrecy, this is not a secret society. When I want to say something I would say it in front of a  shooting squad, I have confronted dictators and the millitary police. There are a bunch of trolls in this  froum posting ideas which has nothing to do with the forum, and they are still walking like Johnny Walker. If you want  , you can remove my name from the forum,  and I would not  care your decision. I would move  my microphone to another place. 

3rd and final warning: 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.This warning will stay in place for the next 30 days.  I this breaches the rules within this period he'll be immediately suspended.

Go ahead and do it. I do not care, I am not going to send any personal message, and I am not going to make any appeal either, this party  is supposely to be open . That is the reason why the Stalinists from  the World Socialist Party of US threw me out from their personal private forum,acting like cowards,  because they want to keep it  as a secret society. I just told tjhem the true in front of their faces:. That party is dead, it does not exist as a political organization,  they are just seating in their rocking chairs while the world is falling apart,  and they are a bunch of nationalists and xenophobics. A party control by one person, it is like a central committee. I would say the same thing in this forum, I do not believe  in secrecy

[moderator1]

Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

Marcos wrote:

   WHAT WAS FASCISM?What was Fascism? Fascism was basically an extreme form adopted by Nationalism in Italy and Germany, for specific reasons, given the historical particularity of those capitalist states, which occurred during the period of the twentieth century between two world wars. Fascism originated in Italy in 19119 when Mussolini established the "fascisti di combatitimento", so named in relation to the military units of the Roman Empire. Later the word was used to something similar to the extreme nationalist movement in Germany, although they described themselves as socialist-nationalists (Nazis) instead of Fascists.  Both movements gained control of political power and not less constitutional, in Italy in 1922 and in Germany in 1933, and proceeded to establish the dictatorship of the single party with mass organizations to unite the population and preach that all members of a nation have common interests. Fascism / Nazism was relentlessly opposed by Nazism because of the latter advocates internationalism and advocates class struggle within nations. Analyzing this new phenomenon, which represents comparative political retrogression as Marx and the Marxists until the First World War World War II had seen the developments of things (political democracy after socialism) was a challenge for those who called themselves as Marxists. As they faced this challenge is how the Renton book describes this situation. Well written and easy to understand, but suffers from the shortcomings of its author because it is a member of the World Socialist Party (of Trotskyist origin), who sees Trotsky as a brilliant political thinker. But Trotsky was disqualified as a useful character to contribute to the debate on Fascism, although he was not racist, he favored the dictatorship of the single party The SWP (World Socialist Party, not the WSM) campaigns against the fascist groups that exist today as one of their priorities, but because Fascism is an extreme form of the development of nationalism they should also advocate a campaign against nationalism. But they do not do this, they support the so-called right of nations for self-determination, a doctrine which accepts the myth of nations, which provides ideological ammunitions to justify ethnic cleansing of members of other nations living in the territory of a nation Analysis of the book of  Renton madeFor the Socialist Party of Great Britain. We have an article written in 3 parts which show the emerge, and the development of Nazism and Fascism

First warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

Well, there is a post indicationg that we are in the verge of fascism/nazism and darki age, and even Robbo wrote saying that capitalism can not establish a neo-feudalo society. This post is an explanation of what Fascism/Nazism really and the actual situation around the world does not qualify to be called Fasscism or Nazism. The left wingers and the Stalinists the see fascists and nazists all over the world, or anybody that was opposed to the Soviet coup, even more, the goverment of Trump can not be called a Fascists/Nazis regimes, In different countries we can neo-Nazis or neo-Fascists, but they do not have the same economical power and support like the Nazis had in Germany

2nd warning: 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.

Moderator I do not like secrecy, this is not a secret society. When I want to say something I would say it in front of a  shooting squad, I have confronted dictators and the millitary police. There are a bunch of trolls in this  froum posting ideas which has nothing to do with the forum, and they are still walking like Johnny Walker. If you want  , you can remove my name from the forum,  and I would not  care your decision. I would move  my microphone to another place. 

3rd and final warning: 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.This warning will stay in place for the next 30 days.  I this breaches the rules within this period he'll be immediately suspended.

Go ahead and do it. I do not care, I am not going to send any personal message, and I am not going to make any appeal either, this party  is supposely to be open . That is the reason why the Stalinists from  the World Socialist Party of US threw me out from their personal private forum,acting like cowards,  because they want to keep it  as a secret society. I just told tjhem the true in front of their faces:. That party is dead, it does not exist as a political organization,  they are just seating in their rocking chairs while the world is falling apart,  and they are a bunch of nationalists and xenophobics. A party control by one person, it is like a central committee. I would say the same thing in this forum, I do not believe  in secrecy

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[alanjjohnstone]

I wish there was a rule about trimming posts….

[Anonymous]

alanjjohnstone wrote:

I wish there was a rule about trimming posts….

 On the subject of Marx and automation. . . There's some new innovative automated technology that I think Marx would have loved. It allows a machine to trim posts or allows a machine to automatically with zero labor hours invested have posts organized and displayed in a less distracting manner so they don't need trimming. I think this innovative technology and automation that marx was unnaware of goes by the name of a "collapsable message thread display" and the way it works is you get to see just the headline or first few sentences of a post until you click on it.  Luckily thanks to capitalism evolving and such we don't have to build a collapsable message thread display and most of these conversations and this entire board could be moved or copied or linked to so people could enjoy things like the ability to upvote and rate comments.  Admittedly, to use this form of automation, marx or SPGB would have to relenquish complete and total ownership and authoritarian control of the website in order to take advantage of athe automation which I believe goes by several names and brands including "google docs", "facebook", etc.  Most of these technology providers include things like reputation managers and personalized filters, so if you personally don't like hearing from one particular poster then you can mute that poster just for yourself and just for that particular poster and all without any central authority or mods making the rule for everyone else too.  These technology companies are in the business of automation and I think Marx would have approved of them quite enthusiastically. Usually the way they develope their automation technology is to start with human readable and actionable rules as you suggest.  Then after humans have made the rules and practiced them for a while to make sure they work well, the rules are integrated into the automation of the facebook or other automation technology provider to free the humans from having to trim posts so much manually.  Have you considered https://www.reddit.com/ as an example of automation available today that was not available to marx in his time?  

[Alan Kerr]

@MarcosPlease feel free to contact me at Academia.eduMy username there is currently Satan The  Devil.https://www.academia.edu/s/c67a68d306/draft-the-students-marx-book-reviewdocx?source=linkThis is in case mod suspends you here.

[LBird]

Brian wrote:

alanjjohnstone wrote:

At the risk of straying from the topic, MB's latest offering on Dissident Vocehttps://dissidentvoice.org/2017/09/the-limits-and-deficiencies-of-dialectical-and-historical-materialism/#more-71852The article  "The Limits and Deficiencies of Dialectical and Historical Materialism (An Abstract of the Principles of Anarcho-Historical-Relativism)"is a very lengthy, very wordy one and i still have not given it a proper read.

Basically its yet another attempt to reiterate Descartes hypothesis 'I think, therefore I am' by clumping the whole cabdoodle of dialectic, historical and materialism in one wordy mishmash so it attains the desired result by swamping the intellect.LBird better get in there quick he's got a supporter to bring to the table.

The only supporter for my ideas that I need is Marx, Brian.That is, 'social theory and practice'.You, as a 'materialist', adhere to the ideology of 'practice and theory', as erroneously followed by Engels. And as an Engelsist, you must divide the world into 'idealists versus materialists', and so you must condemn Marx's unified method as 'idealist'.Read them both, and you'll see that I'm right.

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