Local Election Campaign 2017
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The Seaham Community Party was not formed just to stand for Seaham Town (Parish) Council butit also stood for the Durham County Council in three electoral wards. For a list of such local parties standing, alongside us, for Surrey County Council see:https://mycouncil.surreycc.gov.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=5&V=0Quite apart from Rule 6, I can't see how a member could possibly stand for one of these. In some councils they are in coalition with one or other of the national parties to run the council.
alanjjohnstone wrote:BTW, i do find it difficult not to say ex-comrade, as his actions count louder than any words he may have in mitigation.It would be disrespectful to call him other than Councillor Colborn.
Doesn't he need to be sworn in before i have to call him Councillor Colborn, ALB. ..Or is he at the moment Councillor-elect Colborn. But as i said in my post, there appears to be a certain amount of deceit conducted by Clr-elect Colborn in not disclosing his intentions and that raises the whole issue of how much respect is deserving.
The SCP emblem shows seven proletarians with their hands raised surrendering.
alanjjohnstone wrote:Another of my concerns is if there were members locally who knew of ex-comrade Colborn's candidacy and failed to inform the NERB branch or the Party of it. I would consider that a breach of Rule 6 as well "… or otherwise assist any other political party."Since that question has yet to be answered I'll ask it again.The Executive Committee was made aware of this development towards the end of its meeting yesterday but decided to wait for a response from other members of NE Branch.
alanjjohnstone wrote:Another of my concerns is if there were members locally who knew of ex-comrade Colborn's candidacy and failed to inform the NERB branch or the Party of it. I would consider that a breach of Rule 6 as well "… or otherwise assist any other political party."Yeah, let's have a witchhunt in the old Stalinist tradition. I know he has a wife that could be shot under rule 6. Linda and I are in the clear as we haven't spoken to Steve or Eileen since our last bust up in the branch (phew) but I wont be keeping my head down. Nor are we members of the long reviled NERB (Most of them live miles from Seaham anyway, so you can stop salivating)I have to be honest, Alan, your post disturbed me. The last time I was so disturbed was when you posted that you would never allow me to speak on this forum ever again. It is you that should hold your head in shame, too. I have known comrade Colborne for 40 years and during that time he has barely uttered a sentence that did not include SPGB or socialism. He should have informed the party, yes, and resigned but don't try to turn him into the anti-christ. He is not an SPGB representative but you can guarantee the SPGB case will be echoing around the corridors of power in Seaham. He is incapable of not talking about it. Don't ask me to stop calling him comrade. Steven stood up for my right to speak even when our differnces were at their peak.
alanjjohnstone wrote:But i do have to now ask Vin and Linda, directly, when were they aware of this development. The question is unavoidable, i'm afraid, considering their close family ties with ex-comrade Colborn.Who the hell do you think you are? Setting up a Kangaroo court attacking the integrity of members. Where is the moderator?Are you going to allow the accusation of conspiracy against Linda and myself to remain on the forum?
alanjjohnstone wrote:Quote:you need to be clear about the grounds on which you are expelling him.Rule 6 is quite sufficient and very clear for his branch to proceed to expel him, Robbo. We need not engage in any complicated debate or discussion about the nature of reformism or reforms.
Quote:6. A member shall not belong to any other political organisation or write or speak for any other political party except in opposition, or otherwise assist any other political party.He stood on behalf of the Seaham Community Party, which is registered as a political party by the electoral commission.What is more that he felt the need to do so without resigning and underhandedly maintaining it a secret from the Party. I ask myself, would we have ever heard of his candidature if he had failed to be elected? In fact, would we have ever known if Vin did not have the decency to relay the information to us al?. But i do have to now ask Vin and Linda, directly, when were they aware of this development. The question is unavoidable, i'm afraid, considering their close family ties with ex-comrade Colborn. BTW, i do find it difficult not to say ex-comrade, as his actions count louder than any words he may have in mitigation.
OK I accept your reasoning here Alan. The rules are clear- that you cannot belong to another political party – and although I drew comparsions with Residents Associations being forced by legislation enacted in 2000 to become political parties in order to represent local interests locally, I think Adam's point about the Seaham Community Party contesting elections at county level clinches the argument. I am also sympathetic to Vin's point of view that one should not be overly harsh in judgng Steve Colborn. People dont necessarily cease to be socialists once they leave the Party. It would nice to hear him tell his side of the story though I doubt he would be inclined to do so on this forum
Vin wrote:Who the hell do you think you are? Setting up a Kangaroo court attacking the integrity of members. Where is the moderator?Are you going to allow the accusation of conspiracy against Linda and myself to remain on the forum? [/quote]Answer the question.
robbo203 wrote:It would nice to hear him tell his side of the story though I doubt he would be inclined to do so on this forumGood point but it is only one person that is making us look like a weird sectarian stalinist clique. Not a great advert for the party, though.
Vin wrote:Who the hell do you think you are? Setting up a Kangaroo court attacking the integrity of members. Where is the moderator?Are you going to allow the accusation of conspiracy against Linda and myself to remain on the forum?Bob Andrews wrote:Answer the question.Lol
Vin, a very simple question was put to you and Linda to answer, by myself. Did it never occur to you that it would be asked, once you posted the details without any condemnation or criticism? I certainly make no apologies for raising the question and i breached no forum guidelines in doing so, therefore, you doth protest too much.But you have now answered it in #63 and i fully accept that you were totally unaware in advance that ex-Cde Colborn was standing for another political party until you saw it in the election results or otherwise was informed. But you have signalled yet another question. Is Eileen Colborn a member of the Party? I have a vague recollection she might be. I could well be mistaken though. I have known many who have left the SPGB for other organisations but they had sufficient respect for the Party to resign beforehand and not let it be learned second-hand.Thus, I do not withdraw any uncomplimentary remark aimed at ex-Cde Coborn. Robbo, i think you may find that the Independent Working Class Association (IWCA) serves more a model for those who wish to engage in local community radical politics than the SCP.
Quote:Good point but it is only one person that is making us look like a weird sectarian stalinist clique. Not a great advert for the party, though.Ohhhh…Pleeeeeeeze…less with the drama…and get real. Again, i am in wonderment that anyone would think ex-Cde Colborn's actions would not lead to repercussions and consequences or that other members would not be indignant at the ex-comrades duplicitous behaviour.
Well. Alan. If it is OK to refer to a member of the party as an ex-comrade then you qualify in my eyes as you took part in a 10 month campaign to keep me from the forum. Cde Colborn never approached such an un socialist act as that. I will let you get on with your unofficial witchhunt as you seem to have the support of moderation.
May I respectfully request that admin/mod locks this thread as it can lead to nothing positive.
alanjjohnstone wrote:Quote:Good point but it is only one person that is making us look like a weird sectarian stalinist clique. Not a great advert for the party, though.Ohhhh…Pleeeeeeeze…less with the drama…and get real. Again, i am in wonderment that anyone would think ex-Cde Colborn's actions would not lead to repercussions and consequences or that other members would not be indignant at the ex-comrades duplicitous behaviour.
But your wichhunt is not all about Comrade Colborn it includes an attack on members in the north east. I suggest you restrict your attack to the accused and leave other comrades out of it.
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