Labour Party facing bankruptcy
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February 14, 2024 at 2:38 pm #250457ALBKeymaster
Starmer may well be sacrificing more than just one seat because of his pro-Israel stance. This from before the Rochdale fiasco:
George Galloway is standing in Rochdale for the Workers Party. How well he does should be a sign of what might be in store for the Labour Party. The coming general election may see Labour shadow cabinet members fall as well as Tory ministers.
February 25, 2024 at 9:01 am #250557ALBKeymasterMick Lynch and the RMT have said they will support Corbyn if he stands as an independent in the general election:
đš NEW: The RMT union has announced it will support Jeremy Corbyn if he runs as an independent at the next general election.
RMT leader Mick Lynch said: "We will be supporting Jeremy Corbyn in the next election." pic.twitter.com/aDdqj7W8X0
— Stats for Lefties đđłïžââ§ïž (@LeftieStats) February 24, 2024
But elsewhere they will be supporting Starmerâs Party of Business:
February 27, 2024 at 6:48 pm #250713imposs1904ParticipantLocal news.
Last night Lambeth Labour Group suspended a Jewish Cllr indefinitely and a black and 2 Muslim cllrs for 3 months for calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
It seems they are happier ignoring Genocide than with dissent— JewishVoiceForLabour (@JVoiceLabour) February 27, 2024
February 27, 2024 at 11:23 pm #250715ALBKeymasterFebruary 27, 2024 at 11:42 pm #250716MooParticipantRefusing to send weapons to Israel would be a much better way of ending this conflict than calling (i.e. asking) for a ceasefire.
March 5, 2024 at 7:58 am #250825ALBKeymasterWe may as well keep on recording these threats, even though by now people must be perfectly well aware of what a Labour government will be like.
Hereâs one of their future ministers declaring:
âUnder our changed Labour party, if you can work there will be no option of a life on benefits.â
She went on to criticise the Tories for not having been tough enough on benefits:
âShe took aim at what she described as âTory claims about being tough on benefitsâ.â
Talk about âLabour, Tory, Same Old Storyâ.
March 20, 2024 at 10:44 pm #251111ALBKeymasterIn another of her speeches, yesterday, to reassure big business that it had nothing to fear from a Labour government, among the names dropped by Rachel Reeves was Joan Robinson:
âAs Joan Robinson understood when she wrote sixty years ago, economics is not just about quantitative models and abstract theory â it is about values, rooted in political, philosophical and moral questions, about human nature and the good society.â
Robinson (1903-1983) probably did vote Labour in her time but hereâs what her Wikipedia entry says of her:
âRobinson also made several trips to China, reporting her observations and analyses in China: An Economic Perspective (1958), The Cultural Revolution in China (1969), and Economic Management in China (1975; 3rd edn, 1976), in which she praised the Cultural Revolution. In October 1964, Robinson also visited North Korea, which was effectively a single-party Communist state, and wrote in her report “Korean Miracle” that the country’s success was due to “the intense concentration of the Koreans on national pride” under Kim Il Sung, “a messiah rather than a dictator.” She also stated in reference to the division of Korea that “[o]bviously, sooner or later the country must be reunited by absorbing the South into socialism.”
Reeves needs to be careful whose names he drops. Otherwise, there is going to be a headline in the Daily Mail: REEVES INFLUENCED BY ECONOMIST WHO SAID NORTH KOREA WAS SOCIALIST.
Incidentally, Robinson is credited with getting academic economists to take Marx seriously with her 1942 book An Essay on Marxian Economics, reviewed in the January 1944 Socialist Standard. It is very critical but mentions at the end:
âIn spite of her academic outlook it must be conceded that Joan Robinson admits the exploitation of the workers, and here and there hints at expropriation of the capitalists as the remedy âŠ.â
March 24, 2024 at 7:25 am #251184ALBKeymasterSaid to be the last Corbynista in any high office Jamie Driscoll, the North of Tyne Mayor, has an article in this weekendâs i paper. He was deselected for talking to Ken Loach and is standing against Labour as an Indeoendent.
Of course his programme is just common or garden reformism but he does have a point about the âmagic growth bunnyâ.
Reeves herself has admitted that if there is no growth â if she canât magic it into existence – the Labour government will be in an impossible situation and will have to impose austerity:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68602668.amp
Governments canât decree growth. That depends on how capitalist enterprises judge the prospect of making an adequate profit. She might be lucky and growth might happen but it wouldnât be anything to do with the Labour government might do. It would just be a coincidence.
On the other hand, she might be unlucky ..
March 24, 2024 at 1:01 pm #251194ALBKeymasterWe missed this one. Well-known leftie Owen Jonas has left the Labour Party and now opposes it but not reformism of course. In fact his case seems to be that the Labour is longer a reformist social-democrat party.
March 28, 2024 at 11:54 am #251374james19ParticipantOwen posted about Gaza yesterday on X. But he has blood* on his hands, he didnât say much about the Iraq war, lost his voice but he might have thought was it a âjustâ war. Probably didnât want to rock the boat. The 1m slaughtered. If he had any principles, he would have left the Labour Party back then!!? This war when a Labour government was in office**.
He writes for the Guardian, the newspaper that reported Julian Assange to the authorities when he gave them evidence of US military slaughtering civilians in Iraq. He is facing extradition and possible execution if the Government allows his extradition.
*If youâre a member of the Labour Party you carry its baggage
**Labour are a recruiting Sargent for capitalism wars.April 13, 2024 at 8:33 am #251578ALBKeymasterStarmer says next Labour government will further develop weapons of mass destruction:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68790435.amp
Why is this not a surprise? After the Party of NATO, the Party of Business, why not the Party of the Bomb?
What is perhaps surprising is his description of the development of the British A-bomb as one of the âtowering achievementsâ of the post-war Labour government. They didnât used to boast about it in the past.
April 13, 2024 at 10:49 am #251580Bijou DrainsParticipant“The development of the British A-bomb as one of the âtowering achievementsâ of the post-war Labour government.”
He could have also cited these examples of the Atlee Government doing its best to support the British Capitalist Class and waving the butcher’s apron.
Greek Civil War (1946â1948)
1945 Sheikh Bashir Rebellion (1945)
Indonesian National Revolution (1945â1949)
Operation Masterdom (1945â1946)
Corfu Channel incident (1946â1948)
Malayan Emergency (1948â1960)
Korean War (1950â1953)That would clearly remind the ruling class that they have nothing to fear from the Labour Party
April 21, 2024 at 7:14 pm #251733ALBKeymasterHereâs the ex-prosecutor general Sir Keith Starmer praising National Front flag-waving day.
On behalf of the Labour Party, I wish everyone in England a very happy St Georgeâs Day! pic.twitter.com/aE1MBVccqU
— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) April 23, 2023
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I think he is trying to say that the Tory party is no longer the Tory party but that this is what the Labour party now is.
April 22, 2024 at 8:33 am #251737robbo203ParticipantHereâs the ex-prosecutor general Sir Keith Starmer praising National Front flag-waving day.
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Will the (anti) Labour Party now be accepting applications from members of the English Defence League? Starmer is in danger of making Sunak appear positively libertarian. It’s enough to make anyone want to reach for the nearest bucket….
April 25, 2024 at 11:11 am #251772ALBKeymasterâWeâll be the most pro-business government ever, vows Reevesâ is the headline across two pages in todayâs Times.
More pro-business than Gladstone in the 19th century, the Tory governments of the 1920s, or Madame Thatcher in the 1980s? That would be some achievement but the incoming Labour government is clearly intending to have a go.
The actual quote, for future reference and for throwing at Labourites and those who say we should vote Labour (itâs from an interview with the Times) is:
If I become chancellor, the next Labour government is going to be the most pro-business government this country has ever seen.
Never has Labourâs intention to govern in the interest of the capitalist class been so openly and unashamedly proclaimed.
Lesser evil? What lesser evil?
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