Keir Starmer New Labour Party Leader
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April 4, 2020 at 10:31 pm #197944
alanjjohnstone
KeymasterA return to Blairism?
April 4, 2020 at 11:55 pm #197959PartisanZ
ParticipantHe is a centre forward. He’ll pass to the wings better than wimpy “you know” Blair.
April 6, 2020 at 7:20 am #198051Jack_higgon
ParticipantStarmer doesn’t seem to be Blair 2.0. He seems like he might actually be a vaguely reformist critic of capitalism, albeit rather a dull one… Still, it’s been quite entertaining to see so many self-proclaimed socialists departing the labour party, claiming it’s not a socialist party any more – as if it ever was!
April 7, 2020 at 6:05 am #198111ALB
KeymasterApparently when he was younger he was associated with some Trotskyists even if he might not have known that they were:
April 9, 2020 at 3:02 am #198181alanjjohnstone
KeymasterThe establishment Jewish lobby have applauded the election of Starmer and his pledges to “clean house” but the smears of anti-Semitism against the left has continued
The Smearing of Ken Loach and Jeremy Corbyn is the Face of our New Toxic Politics
Loach’s offence, was the fact that he has denied that Labour is institutionally anti-Semitic and that he was somehow associated with a certain GMB union member who had been expelled for being critical of the IHRA definition, Peter Gregson.
April 15, 2020 at 12:47 am #198717alanjjohnstone
KeymasterI read some media articles on this internal report, but none was as brutal as this analysis. Some of us suspected it though.
“Labour party officials opposed to Jeremy Corbyn worked to lose the 2017 general election in the hope that a bad result would trigger a leadership contest to oust him…the party’s right wing, who worked at its HQ, became despondent as Labour climbed in the polls during the election campaign despite their efforts…Tactics by anti-Corbyn staff evidenced in the report include channelling resources to candidates associated with the right wing of the party, refusing to share information with the leader’s office, and “coming into the office and doing nothing for a few months” during the election campaign.
April 15, 2020 at 5:01 am #198724ALB
KeymasterMeet the new shadow Business Secretary : Ed Miliband, avowed supporter of capitalism.
Trying to make capitalism nicer is the most the Labour Party has always ever aspired to do but, when in office, has always failed to deliver as it’s undeliverable.
September 12, 2020 at 6:05 pm #206568alanjjohnstone
KeymasterLabour’s Left shifts right
“The left has got to build an alliance with that centre-left of the party that voted for Starmer…”
September 24, 2020 at 12:19 am #206913alanjjohnstone
KeymasterThe “inclusive” PM
Labour has sacked three junior shadow ministers who joined with Jeremy Corbyn and 14 other Socialist Campaign group MPs in breaking the party’s whip by voting against the second reading of a controversial armed forces bill.
Nadia Whittome, Beth Winter and Olivia Blake defied the whip, which called on Labour MPs to abstain on the overseas operations bill. The legislation aims to introduce a presumption against prosecution for British soldiers serving abroad. The proposed presumption against prosecution applies to offences such as war crimes and torture and critics say it breaches international humanitarian law.
October 26, 2020 at 2:31 pm #208595ALB
KeymasterApparently the future Labour Prime Minister, Sir Keith Starmer, really was a Trot in his youth. I thought it was just a rumour but it seems not:
http://another-green-world.blogspot.com/2020/04/when-keir-starmer-was-marxist.html?m=1 u i
October 31, 2020 at 7:03 am #208757J Surman
ParticipantI’d been thinking about the huge numbers of people who had joined the Labour party on the strength that Corbyn stood for the principles that they agreed with. Have there been any reports of them resigning in large numbers or are they more likely to just not renew membership? And – what difference would that make anyway?
“Starmer received £50,000 in personal donations from lobbyist Sir Trevor Chinn to fund his leadership bid.
It is perfectly plain that Starmer’s aim in suspending Corbyn is to drive the mass membership that Corbyn attracted out of the Labour Party, and make it a reliable arm of the right wing security state. He wants the Labour Party to be financially dependent not on its members, who have annoying principles, but on donors like Chinn.”
October 31, 2020 at 7:14 am #208758J Surman
ParticipantHere’s the answer to one of my questions:
Exclusive: Labour so swamped by member resignations, Evans pleads for help dealing with them
October 31, 2020 at 7:26 am #208759J Surman
Participanthttps://www.top50proisraelinfluencers.com/
No. 14 Kier Starmer
October 31, 2020 at 10:15 am #208760ALB
KeymasterNot only that but from his Wikipedia entry:
“Starmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007. She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health. The couple’s son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend Shabbat dinners.”
Thought I would check up on who Sir Trevor Chinn was and this came up in his Wikipedia entry:
”Throughout his life he has also devoted himself to the Jewish community in Britain and supporting Israel in a number of roles, for example: chairman and President of the Joint Israel Appeal, the leading organisation in Britain supporting Israel’s humanitarian needs; board member of The Jewish Community Centre for London, President of Norwood from 1996 to 2006; one of the founders of the Jewish Association for Business Ethics (and now Vice-President). Sir Trevor currently sits on the Executive Committee of the Jewish Leadership Council and the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM)”.
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October 31, 2020 at 1:16 pm #208769Young Master Smeet
ModeratorI’m not sure what bringing his wife and children’s religion into things achieves.
Nor spotting up the perfectly normal and legitimate lobbying activity of a businessman. The class analysis is that the vast majority, Jewish and non-Jewish alike are locked out by this kind lobbying. If it wasn’t Chinn it’d be some other businessman because their power of the purse is required to get ahead in politics.
All governments and state actors lobby and influence other states: Churchill (beloved of the right) interfered in American politics to drag them into the war on the British side.
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