Jill Stein and the American Green Party

November 2024 Forums General discussion Jill Stein and the American Green Party

Viewing 6 posts - 1 through 6 (of 6 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #84998
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Quote:
    The problem is, everybody loves Eugene Debs but nobody wants to be Eugene Debs. They are embarrassed to say that working people have to revolt, that they should not trust leaders including themselves, that the poorest and most oppressed of our society have the most power to transform it, much more so than self-promoting candidates, bureaucrats and academics. No, you don’t say these things among polite company.

    http://libcom.org/news/real-problem-jill-stein-15082016

    A useful article to widen the debate on the presidential elections and some interesting readers comments. 

     

    #121492
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I didn't think Jill Stein could have said this so I followed the link. And of course she didn't.

    #121493
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Who said she did? I quoted the author on Debs, as comrades know, despite some fundamental flaws, i rather admire his writing. Debs has become a popular icon since Sanders campaign begun. I agree with one of the comments however.

    Quote:
     the idea of running a Debs type campaign in 2016 is ahistorical. What gave his campaigns momentum was a mass socialist and anarcho-syndicalist movement that worked closely together and had overlapping memberships.

    And another points out the SPA had a wide grassroots presence "Scores of Socialists held municipal office"  and Victor Berger was in CongressMakes you wonder, though, whatever happened to Daniel DeLeon's legacy…he seemed to have  been written out of the left's labour history and disappeared….as now the SLP itself, it appears. Sorry for the confusion 

    #121494
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Fair enough but these people standing in the US presidential elections seem more likely to talk about Debs than the Greens:http://vote-socialist.org/Hopelessly reformist of course.

    #121495
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    They are all  the same old  reformists who has existed for many years. Now, they have been awaken due to the campaign made by Bernie Sanders

    #121496
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    alanjjohnstone wrote:
    Who said she did? I quoted the author on Debs, as comrades know, despite some fundamental flaws, i rather admire his writing. Debs has become a popular icon since Sanders campaign begun. I agree with one of the comments however.

    Quote:
     the idea of running a Debs type campaign in 2016 is ahistorical. What gave his campaigns momentum was a mass socialist and anarcho-syndicalist movement that worked closely together and had overlapping memberships.

    And another points out the SPA had a wide grassroots presence "Scores of Socialists held municipal office"  and Victor Berger was in CongressMakes you wonder, though, whatever happened to Daniel DeLeon's legacy…he seemed to have  been written out of the left's labour history and disappeared….as now the SLP itself, it appears. Sorry for the confusion 

    I think Daniel DeLeon, and the Socialist Labor Party of America were  closer to the real concept of socialism than Eugene Debbs, that is the reason why they are not mentioning him too much. 

Viewing 6 posts - 1 through 6 (of 6 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.