Jeremy Corbyn to be elected Labour Leader?
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August 17, 2015 at 8:04 am #112559alanjjohnstoneKeymaster
The Independent nails its banner to the flag-staff with this unashamed Yvette Cooper story…"she was moved to tears"…Maybe they too have learned the issue is one of honesty and sincerity and now make an emotional appeal for votes that is worthy of 'Drop the Dead Donkey' http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/yvette-cooper-interview-leadership-candidate-makes-emotional-call-for-labour-to-be-the-party-that-makes-a-difference-10458299.htmlIn this party election and particularly if Corbyn is elected and the ensuing media de-legitimising of him, i hope people who study the media monitor the coverage because i am sure it will provide us with plenty of clues on how they will respond to our own possible (if at this time remote) growth of influence and power. I am minded of the arguments from the 19th century onwards of the importance of possessing our own press and today it is even more vital that we have direct access to mass media and that only can be by the internet unless we can afford the technology and have the people with the skills and talent to produce a socialist "Democracy Now"…maybe a internet radio like "Pacific" as a compromise…or exploring the potential of daily podcasts…
August 17, 2015 at 11:22 am #112560stuartw2112ParticipantBill's piece in the Standard is brilliant. But wouldn't a "return to the 1960s" be a thrilling prospect for radicals and socialists of all stripes? Could the song so beloved of Corbyn and party members have come out of any other decade? I'm voting Corbyn, if only for the musical prospects. (Only slightly a joke – the music of the period was made possible by full employment and the welfare state.)
August 17, 2015 at 11:28 am #112561imposs1904Participant"(Only slightly a joke – the music of the period was made possible by full employment and the welfare state.)"Don't forget the Art Schools.My favourite period of music is – surprise, surprise – 1978 thru' 1983, and many a NME type has made the point that that period blossomed musically only because of high youth unemployment and a crumbling infrastructure which meant that the youth of the day had nothing better to do than create brilliant post-punk music and practice their (post) punky sneer in the bedroom mirror.It works both ways.
August 17, 2015 at 11:33 am #112562alanjjohnstoneKeymasterWhat should be the musical anthem""We won't get fooled again"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3FgBut to be truthful, i thought it was drugs we all took that made the music good…
August 17, 2015 at 11:33 am #112563stuartw2112ParticipantExcellent point Darren, but you're forgetting that your taste in music is wrong and punk was just awful.
August 17, 2015 at 11:36 am #112564stuartw2112ParticipantAnother plus point from Alan: vote Corbyn for the better drugs
August 17, 2015 at 11:54 am #112565imposs1904Participantstuartw2112 wrote:Excellent point Darren, but you're forgetting that your taste in music is wrong and punk was just awful.post-punk, cheeky chops.I made a point of mentioning it twice in my post just in case someone got the wrong end of the drumstick. Now, please leave the thread with your Rush albums tucked under your arm. You have no place on a thread that touches on great music.
August 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm #112566ALBKeymasterIsn't Corbyn teetotal and a vegetarian and believes in homeopathy? I wouldn't be surprised if he wore sandals and drank carrot juice too.
August 17, 2015 at 2:03 pm #112567AnonymousInactiveThe 60s may have give us the Who and Lennon but it also gave us Freddy and the Dreamers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZckiY81Gi9E
August 17, 2015 at 3:14 pm #112568stuartw2112ParticipantIs there anything wrong with not drinking alcohol, drinking carrot juice, eating vegetables or wearing sandals? Doesn't homeopathy do a great deal of good, working at least as well as placebo (which works surprisingly well, even if you know it's placebo, probably because merely to be listened to and sympathised with does you more good than the average trip to the reductionist materialist GP). As for Rush, better leave that to another thread!
August 17, 2015 at 4:21 pm #112569ALBKeymasterYou don't appear to have read The Road to Wigan Pier.
August 17, 2015 at 4:27 pm #112570stuartw2112ParticipantNot actually read it, but I got the reference and am aware of the gist. Orwell's finest moment, I believe, is when he savages that notorious sandal-wearer and carrot juice drinker Gandhi and yet is open-minded and generous enough to imply in his conclusion that maybe Gandhi is right after all. It's not like anything else has worked.
August 17, 2015 at 6:31 pm #112571moderator1Participantimposs1904 wrote:"(Only slightly a joke – the music of the period was made possible by full employment and the welfare state.)"Don't forget the Art Schools.My favourite period of music is – surprise, surprise – 1978 thru' 1983, and many a NME type has made the point that that period blossomed musically only because of high youth unemployment and a crumbling infrastructure which meant that the youth of the day had nothing better to do than create brilliant post-punk music and practice their (post) punky sneer in the bedroom mirror.It works both ways.1st Warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.
August 17, 2015 at 6:32 pm #112572moderator1Participantalanjjohnstone wrote:What should be the musical anthem""We won't get fooled again"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3FgBut to be truthful, i thought it was drugs we all took that made the music good…1st Warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.
August 17, 2015 at 6:33 pm #112573moderator1Participantstuartw2112 wrote:Excellent point Darren, but you're forgetting that your taste in music is wrong and punk was just awful.1st Warning: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.
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