ISLAMIC STATE AND STATELESSNESS FOR MODERN SYNDICALISTS
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ISLAMIC STATE AND THE MODERN SYNDICALISTS
WHY BECOME STATELESS/RENOUNCIATION OF BRITISH CITIZENSHIP
Until very recently Statelessness was never the topic of the press or many political papers.Islamic State (ISIS) forced the British Government to bring STATELESSNESS into the slimelight of the British press and in doing so showed the current British Governments hypocritical views.
What is statelessness and who can become stateless?
If we examine modern left wing politics we can see that many communist battles were bloody and a use of force was seen to be justified and needed,simply put violence was excepted as a part of the change.At the point of overthrowing another Government effectively you must become stateless as a body or in large numbers of people ,this to some may seem strange however until the Government is overthrown the body or proletarait are effectively stateless.The United Nations in its wisdom defined what stateless is and the following is not to be taken as a Gospel however a lay persons advice.
Statless Persons are the residual of Civil war,International war,natural Disaster,renounciation,religious,Espionage and political regimes.In America for example it is your constitutional right to become stateless by signing renounciation documentation in the U.K you cant renounciate you citizenship because its illegal to do so unless you have another citizenship.At this point we explain the hypopcracy of the British Government in not allowing left wingers to sign themselves out of the British Lunatic Asylum and banning Muslims from re-entering the U.K. What is the British Government saying to the world.
In certain countries such as Ireland there is no defined law in saying who is and who isnt stateless this is because the old Irish Government were based upon Republicanism and allowed for the provision of allowing persons to walk over the border between alleged British territory and the republic itself,then providing persons with their basic human rights under UN law due to the Ni Conflict between the former IRA and UDA.
Advice to Socialists and syndicalists here is simple if youve been stopped more than twice in your life by Her Majestys bobby friendz(The Police)chances are your blacklisted average people in uk never get stopped more than twice in their lives statistically without being charged.The police dont do their jobs for free and if the state cant pay you back in compensation for false detainments (stops and searches) then you are no longer availing the protection of your country it is against human rights to blacklist persons Mc Alpines and the John Crier MP files have shown this.The Scottish polls showed nearly 50 percent of Scotland wanted the Brits Out you can argue that anyone who wanted the brits out could effectively move to Ireland and claim to be a stateless person on the grounds that nearly half the country of Scotland cant be wrong!!
As a stateless person Governments such as Ireland will register you and give you a new identity under UNITED NATIONS LAW so get wise and study a bit of law and the stateless handooks available through UN .I dont support terrorism however I dont support Britains record of hidden human rights violation,to be frank here Britain has a very nasty reputation for political blacklisting,bullying and human rights abuse and the world keeps turning a blind eye to it.More info can be found at google type None refugeee stateless persons.
RESEARCH :DAVID DUNDALE
Hi, have you read any of our literature? Do you know what we stand for? I think it would help if you would first take a cursory glance at this http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/who-we-are
Shalom VinI understand your predicament,From this article i would presume you may have some problem with Socialists and Anarchists sharing their views and sharing common ground Im sure J.White may have something to say.I grew up in London with DAM ,CLASS WAR Socialist party etc wtc and i will be honest VIN we never got heated up and shared similar objectives i hope you aint the type that believes anarchos and socialsts cant work together to expose far right wing practices and besides theres nothing in my articles that states I aint a socialist does it? presumption is often the worst enemy of allt his article is intended to help ordinary socialist understand that you have the right to opt out of the british system and there are paralles between muslim statelessness and real socialists that live in exile what about Snowden abd Julian assenage are they not harboured by more left wing governmemts dont start a feud on this page i completely understand your perception but it doesnt seem to grasp the nettle.
One other thing Vin how many times have you been falsley arrested and can you explain why class war hereos who thow bricks at demos get a few months and why muslims get charged under PTA acts believe me buddy were sick of pussyfooters who pretend that the British idea of a demo is right god sports that throw punches at one another.Your the type that doesnt grsp the nettle how is it all the demo hedz out there can borrow their mates stuff………they do in syria and iraq……..I dont support violence however at the last Metropolitain police handgun amnesty there were i believe countless thousands of hand guns handed in…..get real dude and start talking politks not ……gas bags
I only asked you to look at what the Party stands for and now you know me enough to insult me
VIN In the eighties we got are houses and squats busted we got false arrests and other things all im expalining is that this article doesnt want younger people falling into the same bear pits.I apologise i aint out to harm bother or insult.lets ook at class war make no mistake Ian bone promotes terrorism political violence its a simple and that yet hes never been charged with political agitation least thers nothing on the net or in papers………understand what we are explaining through experience in a world wide concept we support a unified socialist base on human rights issues anarchist are still in some way niave enough to believe that it can be done without socialist structures however anarcho socialism have strong links and objectives the black and red flags of spain CNT are evidence of political unity against the far right.
I'm as much against the Far Left, as I am against the Far Right! Anyone who supports Capitalism, under whichever banner, or from whichever wing of the Capitalist political spectrum, is my class and political enemy and is/will be treated as such.
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This to some could be seen as bizare however I am a muslim and I am a socialist at the same time.I understand the connection between Muslim statelessness and also political Statelessness some will argue there are indeed many similar areas within modern muslim activity and left wing politics.I would say that if you examine anarch syndicalism and pure socialism there are many common objectives.Class War do seem to be perhaps to far left in that they promote moderate terrorism against rich people and the state and would agree with Steve Colborn that Britain is filled with a thousand and one infidels such as Ian Bone a percular chap whom if applied his bizare stratedgys in my home country would soon find himself in either big money or big trouble.
What Ian Bone says should not be interpreted too literally. When he says "Bash the Rich" he does really mean that they should be hit or beaten. He's just being provocative. If he really meant it he would be in trouble in this country (UK) too for incitement to violence or something. But when you say "socialism" what do you mean by it? A world without frontiers or states where the Earth resources have become the common heritage of humanity with goods and services being produced to satisfy people's needs without money or buying and selling? Where we'd all be stateless because the world would no longer be divided into states, just citizens of the world, Earthpeople.
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