Interesting looking bunch
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April 10, 2013 at 10:38 am #81997Young Master SmeetModeratorQuote:
- Ideas of reclaiming the Labour Party and the return of the old clause four are totally misplaced. From the beginning the party has been dominated by the labour bureaucracy and the ideas of reformism. The party must be refounded on the basis of a genuinely socialist programme as opposed to social democratic gradualism or bureaucratic statism.
- The aim of the party should not be a Labour government for its own sake. History shows that Labour governments committed to managing the capitalist system and loyal to the existing constitutional order create disillusionment in the working class.
- Labour should only consider forming a government when it has the active support of a clear majority of the population and has a realistic prospect of implementing a full socialist programme. This cannot be achieved in Britain in isolation from Europe and the rest of the world.
They are an affiliate of the Labour Representation Committee (though their website doesn’t give any indication on their size/membership). Could be two men and a dog, but at least it recognises a number of our points of contention.
April 10, 2013 at 11:04 am #93558AnonymousInactiveThe site says: "Towards that end we will join with others and seek the closest unity of the left inside and outside the party." Perhaps the party should contact them, without reference to the appalling record of the labour party. They are obviously fully aware of that.
April 10, 2013 at 11:31 am #93559alanjjohnstoneKeymasterOut of curiousity i googled the name Stan Keable who seemed to be the most frequent poster on the blog.Appears he was a SLP member and candidate until he fell out with Arthur who disputed his membership and disowned him in the Morning Star the last time he stood for the SLP.No idea why he became a dissident SLPer. If he is on a learning curve, it does certainly seems a positive one. But to realistically expect to change the Labour Party when so many over the decades tried and failed, i'm sure they aren't that naive.So perhaps it is simply a strategy of casting their nets to catch some Labour Party members or the limited ambition of forming a lobby group to attract an audience. I wouldn't hold out hopes of us hooking any of them as members but we could organise a public meeting or two with them on the Labour Party – In Or Out? We have the history of the ILP within the Labour Party, the entryism of the Trotskyists to throw cold water on the idea of turning the Labour Party into a socialist party. So i agree we should make contact and arrange a "comradely" discussion meeting. Neither they or us have anything to lose by it. BillM has experience of joining the Co-operative Party to provide further ammunition in a debate.
April 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm #93560jondwhiteParticipantI think they are close to the CPGB/Weekly Worker as this publication carries many of their articles.
April 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm #93561imposs1904ParticipantI think Jondwhite is right. Keable has been a longstanding supporter of CPGB/Weekly Worker.I wonder if this is just another one of their silly little stunts?
April 10, 2013 at 3:02 pm #93562AnonymousInactiveimposs1904 wrote:I wonder if this is just another one of their silly little stunts?Good point but I think you have misspelled the last word in the sentence!
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