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[steve colborn]

mackemboy10:16 PM on 11/01/2014We are all in it together has to be a misnomer when we read recently about that great communist writer and inspiration for Ed Miliband, Eric Hobspawn (not sure of name) leaving a mere £1.8 million in his will ! Perhaps he had a family trust like Ralph Miliband to avoid death duties. stevecolborn11:26 PM on 11/01/2014Actually mackemboy, it's hobsbawn and as I would ask him, before hurling around concepts such as "communism", please define what you mean by this term. Hobsbawn, as with Ralph Milliband, was a supporter of "State-Capitalism, ala the USSR, Cuba, China et al. Unless you have proof that they did not have rich and poor, production for profit, a monetary system etc etc, all classical economic indicators of a Capitalist economy. Do you have such proof?

[steve colborn]

vinmaratty9:56 AM on 12/01/2014mackemboy you are mistaking socialism with Christianity. The catholic church tells you that the poorer you are the better chance you have of getting into heaven. Yet the Vatican's wealth has been estimated at around £10 billion to £15 billion. Socialism as presented by stevecolborne is offered as solution to working class problems. Can you explain to me what this has to do with the desire to be poor? vinmaratty10:02 AM on 12/01/2014Banished "It's a nice idea but it will never happen" is one of the most common responses to the suggestion that it is in our interests to work towards building a socialist society. The assumption is that socialism will rely upon everybody being altruistic, sacrificing their own interests for those of others. But socialism would actually involve the majority of people recognising their common interests. Surely the production of food is in our common interests?

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