Information request on Party Policy
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ALB wrote:My view of some of the things said in the discussion of the particular ex-member in question are a bit distateful and probably counter-productive (as you say, he might rejoin when he retires), but if a member has a strongly-held view about an ex-member I can't see how we can or should try to stop him/her expressing it. Wouldn't that be censorship?
My view has been consistent if you have followed my discussions. My original gripe was the un moderated personal attacks against forum members by party members. Preventing forum members launching personal attacks is not censorship. It is one of the main reasons for moderation.I really don't know how many times I need to repeat myself. The posts I have had moderated were not personal attacks. The forum is not the place to make personal attacks on other members.Another Strawman I'm afraid, Adam:-)
I really don't understand why mentioning moderation in a thread should lead to a suspension of a sympathiser and potential member. What the hell is wrong with this party
Moderation can be discussed in the appropriate place. Otherwise stick to the topic of the conversation as far as is reasonable.
TheOldGreyWhistle wrote:My view has been consistent if you have followed my discussions. My original gripe was the un moderated personal attacks against forum members by party members. Preventing forum members launching personal attacks is not censorship. It is one of the main reasons for moderation.I really don't know how many times I need to repeat myself. The posts I have had moderated were not personal attacks. The forum is not the place to make personal attacks on other members.Another Strawman I'm afraid, Adam:-)This is completely non-factual, what will it take for you to stop spinning these lies? The fact of the matter is you asked for me to be moderated after I had used the word "shit" and "bullshit" to critique someone's argument. It was not a personal attack by any stretch of the imagination. Yet you did indeed try to have me censored for it. As a result of the subsequent happenings big questions were asked about how the party's internet forums are moderated. This has lead to a hardened position where moderators are more afraid of being accused of "gross negligence" through inaction than they are by taking the wrong action. Ironically you ended being the biggest victim of the new stance that moderators were forced to take. At what point do you have to start questioning how much of what keeps happening is down to your behaviour and not solely the fault of the party?
The trouble with continually harping on about moderation on a thread is that it creates the impression that this is really what someone wants to discuss and criticise rather than the subject of the thread. Personally I find this not just a diversion but irritating, not just here but on other forums too, and normally avoid getting involved in such discussions like the plague, so I don't know why I'm posting this.
FINAL WARNING. Any further posts in this thread that are not directly related to it's topic will be removed and the posters may have there posting rights suspended.
I am standing back, moreover, cogitating where this is leading! The thread is, "Information request on party policy"?What is it? Moreover where is it proscribed? Steve.
Ed wrote:This is completely non-factual, what will it take for you to stop spinning these lies?This a personal attack. You are calling me a liar. I will not be provoked this time into defending myself. Have a nice day ED.
As I started this thread asking: Information request on Party PolicyAre all people who leave your party class traitors. I ask because I am an ex member who tried to defend another ex member Steve Colemen and I was censored. I have received my answer. Ex members are either class traitors or liars. Either way they are NOT welcome back.
Come off it, this is well over the top. This is not the drift of this thread nor a logical conclusion from what has been said on it. You are letting your anger at being called a liar get the better of you. Ex-members regularly rejoin and nothing is stopping you defending the ex-member who was called a class traitor.
Alb,I am unable to reply. Result for the party!
DJP Any idea as to why you have not been suspended for flaming and off topic? Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that you are the Administrator AND Moderator of the forum.
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