Hillary Clinton 2016
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August 5, 2016 at 1:06 am #116622AnonymousInactivealanjjohnstone wrote:New York Senator Chuck Schumer: "For every blue-collar Democrat we will lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two or three moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia."In defence of Sanders, his supporters often claim that his campaign pushed Hilarity Clinton to a more progressive left position. This articles argues differently and suggests that in fact theTrump's candidacy has shifted Clinton to the right.http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/08/04/oligarchs-are-feeling-right-home-democratic-partyQuote:This year, far from standing on what many have celebrated as "the most progressive platform in history," Hillary Clinton's rightward lurch has been particularly brazen and unapologetic.Justifying the shift in terms of defeating Donald Trump, Clinton and her allies have been "aggressively courting Republican leaders" and their right-leaning donors within the business community (she has also chosen as her running mate a pro-Wall Street "cash machine").Earlier this week, Hewlett Packard executive Meg Whitman, typically a strong fundraiser for the Republican Party, announced that she would be supporting Clinton, both at the ballot box and through donations.This endorsement followed those of Michael Bloomberg, Mark Cuban, and Warren Buffett.But the focus on high-profile billionaires obscures the broader discussion of the Democratic Party's move away from labor and toward wealthier, white-collar professionals, whose views on economic issues in particular are often antithetical to the ambitious changes necessary to combat the trends that have left millions without even the most basic of necessities.Hillary Clinton has, in light of these recent endorsements, predictably attempted to differentiate between "good" billionaires and "bad" billionaires.
In different parts of the world peoples have a different conception of what is left and what is right. She has been a right winger all her life. Some right wingers have claimed that she went to Cuba with the Young Brigades and I think that it is not true either, but in that time she was a Republican. In the US anybody can be a communist and anybody can be a left winger, or a liberal, even those politician who advocate for state capitalism are called liberals, which means that they do not know what liberalism was in France and Great Britain, and also left winger do not know what neo-liberalism is
August 12, 2016 at 4:33 pm #116623AnonymousInactiveAugust 12, 2016 at 6:26 pm #116624Dave BParticipantI know all this has got nothing to do socialism etc but this could turn out like “Dallas”, as I suspect Hillary is in trouble. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45279.htm https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/354847-wikileaks-dnc-leaks-russia/
August 13, 2016 at 3:53 pm #116625AnonymousInactiveDave B wrote:I know all this has got nothing to do socialism etc but this could turn out like “Dallas”, as I suspect Hillary is in trouble. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45279.htm https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/354847-wikileaks-dnc-leaks-russia/Nothing is going to happen to her, she has been blessed by the rulers. Others have done worst things and nothing has happened to them. Millions of peoples are still supporting her. This is not a problem of individual and personalitiy
August 13, 2016 at 4:26 pm #116626rodmanlewisParticipantDave B wrote:I know all this has got nothing to do socialism etc but this could turn out like “Dallas”, as I suspect Hillary is in trouble.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45279.htmhttps://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/354847-wikileaks-dnc-leaks-russia/So, the choice for American workers is a woman who gives away state secrets and Trump with his finger on the button!
August 14, 2016 at 12:47 am #116627AnonymousInactiverodmanlewis wrote:Dave B wrote:I know all this has got nothing to do socialism etc but this could turn out like “Dallas”, as I suspect Hillary is in trouble.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45279.htmhttps://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/354847-wikileaks-dnc-leaks-russia/So, the choice for American workers is a woman who gives away state secrets and Trump with his finger on the button!
I would not call it a choice. any way, the choice has already been made by the rulers before the general election takes place, she is going to be the winner.All the irregularities made during the primaries has shown that she is the selected one, they want one a female Obama, she is the one who is going to continue the same path of George Bush and Barack Obama
August 16, 2016 at 7:01 pm #116628SonofRageParticipantPerhaps I will do a write in vote for "socialism" this year. I don't put much stock in voting in capitalist elections, but I do wish there was an option worth supporting that would at least register a protest vote. I don't know that my write-in vote would even be recorded.
August 16, 2016 at 11:54 pm #116629AnonymousInactiveSonofRage wrote:Perhaps I will do a write in vote for "socialism" this year. I don't put much stock in voting in capitalist elections, but I do wish there was an option worth supporting that would at least register a protest vote. I don't know that my write-in vote would even be recorded.Keep the paper for the toilet., and do not wear out the rubbers of your shoes. I have never voted in my life for any party of poverty, for the only party that I would vote, would be for the Socialist Party of Great Britain. In some countries during the time of election peoples should stay home drinking beers and watching tv, they are just electing their own rulers, and that is what they call freedom and democracy
August 19, 2016 at 3:11 am #116630AnonymousInactiveA so called Labor and Communist Party endorsing Hillary Clinton http://peoplesworld.org/working-families-party-endorses-clinton/
August 20, 2016 at 2:18 am #116631alanjjohnstoneKeymasterhttp://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/company-owned-pro-israel-clinton-mega-donor-haim-saban-just-bought-gawker-medias Haim Saban and his wife Cheryl gave $5 million to the Hillary Clinton’s Super PAC—Priorities USA Action—between 2015 and 2016. Of that sum, at least $3 million was contributed following Clinton’s letter to Haim Saban in July of 2015, in which she sought advice on "how we can work together” to defeat the growing movement to Boycott, Divest from, and Sanction (BDS) Israel.
August 20, 2016 at 4:40 am #116632alanjjohnstoneKeymasterThis article is an analysis of Al Gore, Chomsky's "lesser evil" against Bush, and whether Gore's Iraq policy would have been in any way fundamentally different from the "greater evil's" actions.http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/19/liberal-myths-would-al-gore-have-invaded-iraq/
September 2, 2016 at 3:58 am #116633alanjjohnstoneKeymasterHillary Clinton’s campaign raised $143 million in August.https://www.rt.com/usa/357968-clinton-fundraising-record-135-million/
September 2, 2016 at 3:24 pm #116634AnonymousInactiveWorkers contributing for the election of their own rulers, and exploiters. The expression now is our capitalism, instead of their capitalism
September 4, 2016 at 11:07 am #116635alanjjohnstoneKeymasterhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ralph-nader-i-was-not-a-spoiler-in-2000-jill-stein-doesnt-deserve-that-insulting-label-either/2016/09/02/02df0e74-6fa3-11e6-993f-73c693a89820_story.htmlNader defending his third party run and exposing the lesser evil myth in the Damnocrats V The Repulsivcans
September 8, 2016 at 8:11 pm #116636AnonymousInactiveHillary Clinton said that she was not going to send more troops to Iraq or Siria, but the troops are already there, and in the Middle east since 1980, and they are contracting many mercenaries soldiers from others countries, and they have several military bases in the Middle East and they are proposing to create a string of military bases. Only fools can be fooledIn Latin America they are contracting all kind of criminals and murderers and ex-paramilitary from Colombia and Chile to become soldiers. They already have the experiences and the trainings. When they are killed they are not part of the Pentagon statistic and they are not called heroes or patriots. The majority of US citizens do not know thathttp://nacla.org/news/outsourcing-iraq-war-mercenary-recruiters-turn-latin-americahttp://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hundreds-columbian-mercenaries-fight-saudi-led-coalition-yemen-964433925
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