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robbo203 wrote:Ive increasingly come to the view that the problem really centres on the abritrary ruling on what constitutes off topic posts. I propose a radical break and that this whole rule be scrapped completely. If the drift of the discussion moves well away from the original title of the thread so be it. What's wrong with that? There is usually some kind of underlying dynamic steering the direction of the thread, anyway and it is far better to let the conversation flow naturally than railroad it along narrow rigid lines.
This is the way a physical meeting of the party would be conducted. For some reason the mod is appointed centrally, which basically contradicts party rules and standing orders.
Vin wrote:This is the way a physical meeting of the party would be conducted. For some reason the mod is appointed centrally, which basically contradicts party rules and standing orders.Comrades if you disagree with the off-topic rule despite the changes to protocol get it changed by drafting a resolution to Conference. With the new protocols now in place it is only under extreme circumstances that the off-topic rule be implemented.Indeed, you only have to look at some of the posts presently being posted on the forum to see for yourselves that I've not taken any action in the slightest with those which are undeniabley off-topic.This relaxation of the rule was suggested by me and agreed to by the I.C.. But like its said give an inch and certain people will want a mile! The moderator is not appointed centrally. The post of moderator like any other committee appointment is filled by any member willing to fill that post. This procedure does not contradict or breach party rules or standing orders.I most certainly look forward to the day when another member steps forward and helps me with the task of moderating a very lively forum.
moderator1 wrote:Comrades if you disagree with the off-topic rule despite the changes to protocol get it changed by drafting a resolution to Conference. With the new protocols now in place it is only under extreme circumstances that the off-topic rule be implemented.Yes , I think that would be a good idea – to scrap the off-topic rule completely. It serves no purpose other than to stifle the free flow of the conversation and it is highly divisive. I can't be absoutely sure but probably the vast majority of moderator interventions are prompted by this rule. I say let the people moderate themselves as far as the drift of the conversation is concerned. The task of the moderator should be limited to curtailing clear cases of personal abuse and removing spam. I dont know of any other forum that takes such an over zealous view of the role of moderator as this one
robbo203 wrote:I dont know of any other forum that takes such an over zealous view of the role of moderator as this oneIndeed.
robbo203 wrote:The task of the moderator should be limited to curtailing clear cases of personal abuse and removing spam. I dont know of any other forum that takes such an over zealous view of the role of moderator as this oneMy thoughts, too. At the moment an off-topic post has gone to the off-topic section, yet a personal attack remains. Upside down moderation.Surely we all agree that personal and abusive comment serve nothing and should be removed.?
Vin wrote:robbo203 wrote:The task of the moderator should be limited to curtailing clear cases of personal abuse and removing spam. I dont know of any other forum that takes such an over zealous view of the role of moderator as this oneMy thoughts, too. At the moment an off-topic post has gone to the off-topic section, yet a personal attack remains. Upside down moderation.Surely we all agree that personal and abusive comment serve nothing and should be removed.?
Does that include your own posts comrade? Or would you rather delete them or remove them yourself?
My post did not attack anyone, comrade. I was referring to the attack on the integrity of nerb members. Should be binned.But I let that go. My point is a general one: personal abuse and putdowns should be taken more seriously than off topic when considering suspensions
Vin wrote:My post did not attack anyone, comrade. I was referring to the attack on the integrity of nerb members. Should be binned.But I let that go. My point is a general one: personal abuse and putdowns should be taken more seriously than off topic when considering suspensionsAll breaches of the guidelines and rules are taken seriously. Thankfully, as moderator I have guidelines to follow which expressively state all actions must non punitive. If on the other hand I were to apply your opinion above and start making distinctions on the seriousness of the rule breached there's no doubt that I would be overwhelmed with accusations of being a dictator, stalinist, judge and jury, censor, discriminator, etc, etc. Which would all be true would they not? Sounds familiar by some of the posts I've received from a certain quarter.I've explained on several occasions on the factors which drive my deliberations on what action is appropriate and acceptable in any given situation.
This forum is more active than the WSM forum which is almost dead
mcolome1 wrote:This forum is more active than the WSM forum which is almost deadLikewise Spintcom and Spopen although a few individuals cling on tenaciously with some even declining to visit this forum.I look forward to the day, hopefully now not too far away, when all the Yahoo! lists are shut down and the files held there are transferred to this site.
I can understand how some members find discussion lists a distraction and decline to contribute to any of them, which is their prerogative.But i don't know why someone who fairly regularly contributes to a moribund Yahoo list yet declines to visit an active one. Whatever reason can there be? Does anybody care to offer me the reason?
Currently I'm finding Quora highly productive for stating the socialist case: https://www.quora.com/pinned/Socialism
alanjjohnstone wrote:I can understand how some members find discussion lists a distraction and decline to contribute to any of them, which is their prerogative.But i don't know why someone who fairly regularly contributes to a moribund Yahoo list yet declines to visit an active one. Whatever reason can there be? Does anybody care to offer me the reason?The main reason, from what I've heard, is that this forum is considered by some to be too "clunky". Translation: As this forum is divided up into sub-forums which in turn are divided up into numerous different threads it requires the user to make more than one 'click' to post a comment. Aw, diddums…
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