Euroelections 2014: Wales Region
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May 16, 2014 at 5:30 pm #101398AnonymousInactiveBrian wrote:I've accepted two invites from the media. First one is a studio interview on BBC Radio Wales tomorrow from 12.45 to 12.50 and the other one is a hustings on Radio Cardiff on Friday the 16th from 1pm to 2pm.
There will be a recording of this hustings at Radio Cardiff earlier today out on YouTube tomorrow.
May 16, 2014 at 8:24 pm #101399ALBKeymasterDoes anyone else think that Howard looks like Trotsky? Mind you, Trotsky advocating a classless, stateless, moneyless society would be a turn up for the books.
May 16, 2014 at 10:38 pm #101400steve colbornParticipantA turnip for the books! is this an agricultural site?
May 17, 2014 at 1:03 am #101401BrianParticipantThere was a repeat showing of the Wales on Sunday broadcast on Thursday by the Wales News.
May 22, 2014 at 1:12 pm #101402ALBKeymasterEarly on in the election we were asked by the Powys County Times, published in Welshpool, Mid-Wales, to submit three 250-word statements for publication, with those of the other lists, in their issues of 2 May, 9 May and 16 May. We have managed to obtain copies of the paper for these three dates. Here is what they published on 9 May (based on the script of our election broadcast). Also added, for contrast, is the statement of the Scargill Labour Party blaiming the EU not capitalism for the problems workers face.It can be found in larger print size here:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0ILt2hoSvBU/U33zpOjnYdI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/Kv2zqNnGw8M/s1600/PCT0905SPSLP.jpgWhat was published from us on 2 May and 17 May will follow in due course.
May 22, 2014 at 3:49 pm #101403robbo203ParticipantALB wrote:Early on in the election we were asked by the Powys County Times, published in Welshpool, Mid-Wales, to submit three 250-word statements for publication, with those of the other lists, in their issues of 2 May, 9 May and 16 May. We have managed to obtain copies of the paper for these three dates. Here is what they published on 9 May (based on the script of our election broadcast).I know this might sound a little pedantic but I slightly winced at the sentence in the statement as follows"By producing what's needed and wanted, not just what can be sold"That seems to imply that production for sale will continue in socialism and will operate alongside production for what's needed and wanted, does it not?
May 22, 2014 at 4:40 pm #101404BrianParticipantRadio Cardiff hustings link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6JLd8v86o&feature=youtu.be
May 22, 2014 at 6:02 pm #101405ALBKeymasterrobbo203 wrote:I know this might sound a little pedantic but I slightly winced at the sentence in the statement as follows"By producing what's needed and wanted, not just what can be sold"That seems to imply that production for sale will continue in socialism and will operate alongside production for what's needed and wanted, does it not?I see what you mean, but it's word for word what Gwynn says in the Party Election Broadcast and, grammatically, it doesn't have to be interpreted the way you suggest.
May 23, 2014 at 8:55 am #101406AnonymousInactiveALB wrote:robbo203 wrote:I know this might sound a little pedantic but I slightly winced at the sentence in the statement as follows"By producing what's needed and wanted, not just what can be sold"That seems to imply that production for sale will continue in socialism and will operate alongside production for what's needed and wanted, does it not?I see what you mean, but it's word for word what Gwynn says in the Party Election Broadcast and, grammatically, it doesn't have to be interpreted the way you suggest.
I think Robin does have a point though. It would have been far better to have said "instead of what can be sold".
May 25, 2014 at 11:15 pm #101408AnonymousInactiveEuroelection results for Wales region:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales_%28European_Parliament_constituency%29#Election_resultsTurnout: 32%
May 25, 2014 at 11:46 pm #101409alanjjohnstoneKeymasterSocialist Party of Great Britain1,384 votes0.19%
May 26, 2014 at 12:27 am #101407EdParticipantSocialist Party of Great Britain 5,454 0.23% http://electionresults.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/south-east-endland-2014-european.html sorry wales wrong thread
May 26, 2014 at 8:01 am #101410BrianParticipantWales results http://www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?nav=101,1580,2279&parent_directory_id=646&id=29521For me good results for Cardiff, RCT and Swansea.
May 26, 2014 at 8:34 am #101411alanjjohnstoneKeymasterThe SLP in Wales did well, outvoting us and NO2EU combined.
May 26, 2014 at 10:18 am #101412ALBKeymasterIn view of our result in the South East, where last time both the SLP and No2EU got over 10,000 votes, and in view of the SLP result here in Wales this time, I've changed my mind about the significance of votes for them. I think people vote for the SLP, perhaps mistakenly, for the "Labour" not the "Socialist" in the title, while I don't think votes for No2EU are "left" votes at all (after all, there can't be more than two hundred SPEW and CPB members together in Wales if that).What is interesting about the result in Wales is the areas where we did best. No surprise about Swansea where we've a branch and have contested elections before. It's the other two. The top one. in percentage terms, is Rhondda Cynon Taff, which includes the Rhondda Valley, an old CP stronghold. It must have been the 1930's style logo proclaiming "The World for the Workers" that adorned the front of our manifesto (this was one of the areas where we had Royal Mail distribute it). Despite Cardiff being the area where we got the largest absolute number of votes we did not do well there because over 80,000 voted there.But the big surprise is equal second with Swansea was … Gwynedd (also where we came nearest to matching No2EU.) This is the Welsh-speaking area of Wales where we got some (justified) complaints from irate Welsh-speakers there that we hadn't even a word of Welsh on our manifesto. We targetted this area for free distribution of our manifesto by Royal Mail because it contains Bangor University.We contested Wales mainly for the election broadcast of course but the distribution of the manifesto clearly had an effect in two areas. And if we contest elections in Wales again we must include something in Welsh, even if only the Object and/or a link to an article in Welsh on our website.On a wider political level, as the British nationalist party UKIP easily beat the Welsh nationalist party, Plaid Cymru, there is not the remotest chance of Wales becoming an independent state.
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