Euroelections 2014: Wales Region

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  • #101398
    Anonymous
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    Brian wrote:
    I've accepted two invites from the media.  First one is a studio interview on BBC Radio Wales tomorrow from 12.45 to 12.50 and the other one is a hustings on Radio Cardiff on Friday the 16th from 1pm to 2pm.

    There will be a recording of this hustings at Radio Cardiff earlier today out on YouTube tomorrow.

    #101399
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Does anyone else think that Howard looks like Trotsky? Mind you, Trotsky advocating a classless, stateless, moneyless society would be a turn up for the books.

    #101400
    steve colborn
    Participant

    A turnip for the books! is this an agricultural site?

    #101401
    Brian
    Participant

    There was a repeat showing of the Wales on Sunday broadcast on Thursday by the Wales News.

    #101402
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Early on in the election we were asked by the Powys County Times, published in Welshpool, Mid-Wales, to submit three 250-word statements for publication, with those of the other lists, in their issues of 2 May, 9 May and 16 May. We have managed to obtain copies of the paper for these three dates. Here is what they published on 9 May (based on the script of our election broadcast). Also added, for contrast, is the statement of the Scargill Labour Party blaiming the EU not capitalism for the problems workers face.It can be found in larger print size here:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0ILt2hoSvBU/U33zpOjnYdI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/Kv2zqNnGw8M/s1600/PCT0905SPSLP.jpgWhat was published from us on 2 May and 17 May will follow in due course.

    #101403
    robbo203
    Participant
    ALB wrote:
    Early on in the election we were asked by the Powys County Times, published in Welshpool, Mid-Wales, to submit three 250-word statements for publication, with those of the other lists, in their issues of 2 May, 9 May and 16 May. We have managed to obtain copies of the paper for these three dates. Here is what they published on 9 May (based on the script of our election broadcast).

    I know this might sound a little pedantic but I slightly winced at the sentence in the statement as follows"By producing what's needed and wanted, not just what can be sold"That seems to imply that production for sale will continue in socialism and will operate alongside production for what's needed and wanted,  does it not?

    #101404
    Brian
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    #101405
    ALB
    Keymaster
    robbo203 wrote:
    I know this might sound a little pedantic but I slightly winced at the sentence in the statement as follows"By producing what's needed and wanted, not just what can be sold"That seems to imply that production for sale will continue in socialism and will operate alongside production for what's needed and wanted,  does it not?

    I see what you mean, but it's word for word what Gwynn says in the Party Election Broadcast and, grammatically, it doesn't have to be interpreted the way you suggest.

    #101406
    Anonymous
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    ALB wrote:
    robbo203 wrote:
    I know this might sound a little pedantic but I slightly winced at the sentence in the statement as follows"By producing what's needed and wanted, not just what can be sold"That seems to imply that production for sale will continue in socialism and will operate alongside production for what's needed and wanted,  does it not?

    I see what you mean, but it's word for word what Gwynn says in the Party Election Broadcast and, grammatically, it doesn't have to be interpreted the way you suggest.

    I think Robin does have a point though.  It would have been far better to have said "instead of what can be sold".

    #101408
    Anonymous
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    #101409
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Socialist Party of Great Britain1,384 votes0.19% 

    #101407
    Ed
    Participant

    Socialist Party of Great Britain 5,454 0.23% http://electionresults.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/south-east-endland-2014-european.html sorry wales wrong thread

    #101410
    Brian
    Participant
    #101411
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The SLP in Wales did well, outvoting us and NO2EU combined. 

    #101412
    ALB
    Keymaster

    In view of our result in the South East, where last time both the SLP and No2EU got over 10,000 votes, and in view of the SLP result here in Wales this time, I've changed my mind about the significance of votes for them. I think people vote for the SLP, perhaps mistakenly, for the "Labour"  not the "Socialist" in the title, while I don't think votes for No2EU are "left" votes at all (after all, there can't be more than two hundred SPEW and CPB members together in Wales if that).What is interesting about the result in Wales is the areas where we did best. No surprise about Swansea where we've a branch and have contested elections before. It's the other two. The top one. in percentage terms, is Rhondda Cynon Taff, which includes the Rhondda Valley, an old CP stronghold. It must have been the 1930's style logo proclaiming "The World for the Workers" that adorned the front of our manifesto (this was one of the areas where we had Royal Mail distribute it). Despite Cardiff being the area where we got the largest absolute number of votes we did not do well there because over 80,000 voted there.But the big surprise is equal second with Swansea was … Gwynedd (also where we came nearest to matching No2EU.) This is the Welsh-speaking area of Wales where we got some (justified) complaints from irate Welsh-speakers there that we hadn't even a word of Welsh on our manifesto.  We targetted this area for free distribution of our manifesto by Royal Mail because it contains Bangor University.We contested Wales mainly for the election broadcast of course but the distribution of the manifesto clearly had an effect in two areas. And if we contest elections in Wales again we must include something in Welsh, even if only the Object and/or a link to an article in Welsh on our website.On a wider political level, as the British nationalist party UKIP easily beat the Welsh nationalist party, Plaid Cymru, there is not the remotest chance of Wales becoming an independent state.

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