Epstein Conspiracy
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August 19, 2019 at 12:38 am #189685
alanjjohnstone
KeymasterI’m not entering into any conspiracy theory about his death but I do wonder if there is a conspiracy of silence in the media.
Prince Andrew, a friend, and accused by a 17 yr old of having sex with her
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7369849/Duke-York-appalled-Epstein-sex-scandal-claims.html
We are expected to accept Palace denials as the truth
Peter Mandelson a frequent guest. A Labour peer and politician mixing socially with a billionaire…we shouldn’t be surprised.
Many other Brits are in the infamous little black book of phone numbers.
August 19, 2019 at 2:47 am #189688Anonymous
InactiveMany members of the ruling elite were part of his prostitution ring and he was also blackmailing them, . The jail where they had him the ceiling is very high and prisoners do not get real blankets, they are made out of paper
August 19, 2019 at 10:53 pm #189715alanjjohnstone
KeymasterProtecting the Royals.
But I am more curious about those that the media decline to mention and link?
March 3, 2021 at 1:12 am #214706alanjjohnstone
KeymasterAn article that concentrates upon Prince Andrew’s commercial dealings with the sheiks
Prince Andrew Helped Deepen UK Relations with Gulf Regimes for 8 Years After Epstein Scandal
March 3, 2021 at 10:22 pm #214794Young Master Smeet
ModeratorOf course, some of this was covered in the Scrocialist Standard:
There are mysteries around his rise, that some seem to hint secret state involvement, but I think that’s unlikely, but he was certainly very well connected for a man who never really did anything but invest other people’s money…
August 9, 2021 at 11:17 pm #220590alanjjohnstone
KeymasterI note that I did not see on the BBC website and the Guardian does not feature it as a lead headline that Prince Charles is now being sued by Virginia Giuffre for his sex with her when she was under the legal age of consent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/09/virginia-giuffre-sues-prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein
Silence is complicit in the cover-up
August 10, 2021 at 5:22 am #220591alanjjohnstone
Keymastercorrection. I now see a BBC report on the lawsuit
August 10, 2021 at 7:30 am #220594ALB
KeymasterPrince Charles now? I don’t think we should waste any time on these conspiracy theories. There are more important things to talk about.
August 10, 2021 at 7:32 am #220595alanjjohnstone
KeymasterConspiracy theory? Or a genuine cover-up by the State?
August 10, 2021 at 8:57 am #220599Bijou Drains
ParticipantI think perhaps you meant Prince Andrew rather than Prince Charles?
With regard to Epstein, what no one in the press or media in the UK has raised the issue of Section 72 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 amended Section 72 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 this amendment removed the aspect of ‘dual criminality’ for sexual offences.
This means that UK nationals who commit sexual offences against children abroad are criminally liable for the offence, regardless of whether the exploitation is classed as a criminal offence overseas.
In other words, there is no requirement for the crime to be an offence in both countries. The Act extended extraterritorial jurisdiction for the offence of grooming of children for sexual exploitation.
Although Virginia Giuffre was 17 at the time of the alleged liason with Prince Andrew, the law in the UK regarding prostitution outlaws use of prostitutes under the age of eighteen, see below:
Paying for sexual services of a childSexual Offences Act 2003
(1)A person (A) commits an offence if—
(a)he intentionally obtains for himself the sexual services of another person (B),
(b)before obtaining those services, he has made or promised payment for those services to B or a third person, or knows that another person has made or promised such a payment, and
(c)either—
(i)B is under 18, and A does not reasonably believe that B is 18 or over, or
(ii)B is under 13.Big question is why have the CPS not sent a bobby off to Buck House to knock on Prince Andrew’s door?
Perhaps the Party should gain a bit of publicity by asking the same question in the Standard?August 10, 2021 at 9:42 am #220600Wez
ParticipantCrikey, it’s a sad state of affairs if the bourgeois state can’t cover up the misdeeds of one of it’s own – I’d ask for a tax refund if I was him.
August 10, 2021 at 10:18 am #220601ALB
KeymasterIt is a bit disturbing that there seem to be members that fall for these conspiracy theories. I remember — I think it was about ten years ago — when allegations emerged about a sex ring involving Edward Heath, Leon Britain, Harvey Proctor, the head of the army and others, that there were some members who believed this. Luckily, we didn’t fall for this in the Standard. The allegations were later found to be groundless and the man who spread them is now in prison.
August 10, 2021 at 10:20 am #220602alanjjohnstone
KeymasterA very big OOOPs…of course, I meant Randy Andy
Many believe the Royals no longer have a privileged existence in the UK. They are attempting to dupe us into thinking they are just ordinary people like Harry and Meghan.
I wonder why Andrew’s ex has been invited to Balmoral
August 10, 2021 at 10:28 am #220603Wez
ParticipantALB – You have to be careful when labeling anything as a ‘conspiracy theory’ since this is a favourite ploy used by the mainstream media to dismiss anything that is not ‘on message’ from their employers. Were the WMDs a conspiracy theory? The cover-up of Saville’s crimes a ‘conspiracy theory’? Going back was the Zinoviev letter or the Dreffus affair conspiracy theories? Just occasionally conspiracy theories are true.
August 10, 2021 at 11:05 am #220604ALB
Keymaster“Just occasionally conspiracy theories are true.”
Precisely. That’s my point. Most of the time they are not. So we need to be sceptical about them.
In any event, scandals involving the ruling class are of no interest to socialists. Even if they were all saints they would still be exploiters and privileged parasites.
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