Democratic Socialists added 1000 members in 2 days following election
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August 12, 2017 at 8:54 am #123234
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InactiveVin wrote:jondwhite wrote:18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQThey offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.Besides, we got 5k in a week Do the mathand we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.Hope you've been sharing ours
Indeed, and we haven't yet invested any money in its promotion.But what is particularly nauseating is that a reformist outfit masquerading as revolutionary (and it's not the first time it's happened) has seemingly been proselytised on this forum.
August 12, 2017 at 11:57 am #123235Anonymous
InactiveQuote:But what is particularly nauseating is that a reformist outfit masquerading as revolutionary (and it's not the first time it's happened) has seemingly been proselytised on this forum.Nothing of the kind. It has been informative and has allowed some comments from our viewpoint, for the illumination of non-members and newer members who can't attend discussion groups and education classes..
August 13, 2017 at 10:49 pm #123236Anonymous
InactiveVin wrote:jondwhite wrote:18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQThey offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.Besides, we got 5k in a week Do the mathand we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.Hope you've been sharing ours
That is all what they do: To confuse the workers. With the left socailism has not advanced one inch or one day
August 13, 2017 at 11:05 pm #123237Anonymous
InactiveMatt wrote:Damn,I can't comment on the article unless I take out a subscription.Well, try to join the club of the CPUSA
September 2, 2017 at 7:00 pm #123238alanjjohnstone
KeymasterA Guardian article related to this threadhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-americans-bernie-sanders
Quote:“Young people who say that they’re socialists, or look favourably on socialism, they’re thinking about a kind of New Deal government or democracy against markets,” said Frances Fox Piven, coauthor of a widely debated radical plan in the 1960s to alleviate poverty and create a basic income, and more recently the targetof a vilification campaign by Fox News. “What the New Deal represented was government efforts to regulate an unbridled capitalism and to supplement the distribution of income under markets with government programs.”September 2, 2017 at 8:09 pm #123239Anonymous
Inactivealanjjohnstone wrote:A Guardian article related to this threadhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-americans-bernie-sandersQuote:“Young people who say that they’re socialists, or look favourably on socialism, they’re thinking about a kind of New Deal government or democracy against markets,” said Frances Fox Piven, coauthor of a widely debated radical plan in the 1960s to alleviate poverty and create a basic income, and more recently the target of a vilification campaign by Fox News. “What the New Deal represented was government efforts to regulate an unbridled capitalism and to supplement the distribution of income under markets with government programs.”A new form of State Capitalism like in the Soviet Union, by employing millions of workers by the state. The state apparatus become part of the ruling elite and the national corporation. Bernie Sanders is a new dealer, and his conception of socialism is what Marx called bourgeoisie communism. Real socialists ideas have not spread in the USA yet. Left wingers have propagated the wrong conceptions that state education, state transportation, state medical services, civil service, social service, are socialism-communism. It is not a threat to capitalism
November 9, 2017 at 10:29 pm #123240Anonymous
InactiveThere is one so called Democratic Socialist who was elected in the US on November 8, 2017. He is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. He was able to defeat a very powerful Republican candidate . Despite that he is just a leftwing reformist, It looks like the word socialism in the USA is not a dirty word any longer https://newrepublic.com/article/145727/socialist-beat-one-virginias-powerful-republicans
November 9, 2017 at 11:59 pm #123241ALB
KeymasterInteresting. Was this an election to the Virginia State legislature ("House of Delegates") rather than the national "House of Representatives"?
November 10, 2017 at 1:08 am #123242Anonymous
InactiveALB wrote:Interesting. Was this an election to the Virginia State legislature ("House of Delegates") rather than the national "House of Representatives"?Yes, but he defeated a long time recalcitrant right winger
November 10, 2017 at 11:22 am #123243ALB
Keymaster"House of Delegates". I like it. Good new name in Socialism for the House of Commons and the House of Representatives.
November 11, 2017 at 9:52 pm #123244Anonymous
InactiveBy the meantime, What is the WSPUS doing in the USA ?
November 13, 2017 at 11:24 am #123245alanjjohnstone
KeymasterAn interview on the DSAhttp://inthesetimes.com/article/20686/democratic-socialists-of-america-election-left-win
November 17, 2017 at 3:11 am #123246alanjjohnstone
KeymasterSomething to read about the DSA and the Democratic Partyhttp://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/42609-how-democratic-socialists-worked-with-sanders-s-our-revolution-and-other-grassroots-groups-to-sweep-november-s-elections
Quote:You had to be running as a Socialist. You didn't have to be a DSA member, Ginger Jentzen is not. But you had to be a Socialist and be okay with talking about it, even if it wasn't in the forefront of your campaign.my emphasis
November 17, 2017 at 11:09 am #123247Anonymous
InactiveMarcos wrote:By the meantime, What is the WSPUS doing in the USA ?Doing its best, notwithstanding all the distorters and detractors, in keeping alive the real meaning of socialism in the US.
November 18, 2017 at 1:03 am #123248alanjjohnstone
KeymasterQuote:What is the WSPUS doing in the USA ? …Doing its best, notwithstanding all the distorters and detractors, in keeping alive the real meaning of socialism in the US.I think we have to consider the state of our party and our companion parties. It is not a healthy one, as i am sure many would agree.We are considering a national structure for ourselves. It is a shame that the remit does not go wider and produce suggestions on creating a real World Socialist Movement…a unified world party. Would such a re-organisation help to reverse the downward trend of membership and participation? Well, that is up for debate, a debate we cannot avoid having even if we do presently procrastinate.
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